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Win8 is a mobile OS, otherwise why would it install metro on PC w/30" monitor. Why would a billion dallor company take a usable virtual workspace called a desktop & replace it with noise i dont need in my face..?

Uber unprofessional... even from MS.. to assume we do not need a work bench, to work on.

Wimdows8 is unecessary... not needed in the PC arena.

More like $70 billion company tongue.gif.

Microsoft is being smart and looking to the future, even if it means alienating people in the short term. PC sales are dropping for the first time due to the insane explosion of the mobile market... there's more and more casual users who almost never use their PC, since email and facebook are on the phone. Integrating all their OS is a very smart move- the implementation of it in windows 8 isn't perfect, but come windows 10 or so they'll have it all down, and a much more stable future for themselves.
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I think you miss the point. With multiple monitors side by side it's difficult to hit the corner without moving over to the another monitor. It's also takes more than a fraction of a second to move the mouse 9000 pixels with any accuracy. I think it's ridiculous to be mimicking touch screen actions with a mouse defeating the whole purpose of having the touch screen actions since very few people have touchscreens on their desktops. I would much rather spend the money to go 3d than touchscreen on a new monitor

W8 has improved corner detection, so you can move to any corner on any monitor. I should know; I have multiple monitors.

I don't mind it most of the time. The only one I use is the lower left, though.
    
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W8 has improved corner detection, so you can move to any corner on any monitor. I should know; I have multiple monitors.

I don't mind it most of the time. The only one I use is the lower left, though.

That's good to hear. I am sure things will get better but I am far from an early adopter when it comes to OSs. I did not upgrade to Vista until much later in the cycle so I never had the issues most people had with driver incompatibilities or missing 64 bit drivers. We'll see what W9 beta starts looking like and I may consider W8, lol.

I know it's possible to disable metro and restore the taskbar I just don't think I should need to modify my OS to make it more functional. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by ez12a View Post

my response to people complaining about too many mouse clicks wiith metro:

1. shutdown is only one additional click.

2. with a properly customized metro start menu, you can get to your favorite apps in 2 clicks (less if you use the windows key), vs having to click through all programs > program folder > program. I can open all my office apps and what not by simply pressing Windows > click on app. So really, you're actually clicking less.



i'm not saying w8 is the greatest thing ever, but it's different. I find it kind of ironic that people dont want to learn new things and then complain about the older folk doing the same thing.

THANK YOU, you use Win8 just like I do. It's great right?

Hating on Windows 8 is the cool thing to do now, and OCN 2.0 is all about fads and hopping on the bandwagon. This site is ridiculous.

You guys are all about performance and efficiency, and yet when a faster, better, and more efficient option comes to you, you cry foul. Really? I'd never go back to Win7 at this rate, Win8 basically integrated Rocketdock into my OS, which makes everything awesome.
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I personally don't see what the hate is about, to each his own.

I use W8 on all my computers, even my office computer and have no issue at all. I agree somethings may have been changed unnecessarily (such as managing wireless networks), but thats a part of life.

I have gotten used to the metro menu as well, if I need to open a program i just pop open the "start menu" type the first two letters and hit enter, i know where to find everything, just like on Windows 7. Plus using W8 on my PCS also makes it easier completing tasks on my Surface RT (no I didn't buy it, I got it free through the MSP program) as having a uniform interface between most of my devices makes things flow a lot smoother.
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THANK YOU, you use Win8 just like I do. It's great right?

Hating on Windows 8 is the cool thing to do now, and OCN 2.0 is all about fads and hopping on the bandwagon. This site is ridiculous.

You guys are all about performance and efficiency, and yet when a faster, better, and more efficient option comes to you, you cry foul. Really? I'd never go back to Win7 at this rate, Win8 basically integrated Rocketdock into my OS, which makes everything awesome.

That's the problem with Windows 8. It's very inefficient for those of us who have several windows open at a time. While I have yet to play with it on my multi-monitor setup, so far I horribly dislike it.

And there's no bandwagon. I used it before the "hate-wagon" really started, and genuinely hated it. Yeah Metro is "new" "fresh" I guess even "hip", but for those of us who have some real productivity going on, it's cumbersome, inefficient, expositional, clunky, and poorly thought out.

While there's the hate-wagon, there is also the fan-wagon that floats around here too. Basically Micro$oft can curl out the foulest, paint peeling turd of an OS, and people will, without any inspection or hesitation, eat it with a smile asking for seconds before they even finish their plate. Personally, I find the fan-wagon more of an annoyance than the hate-wagon. At least the latter aren't the ones needing the breath mint.

"This site is ridiculous"

Well then that makes all the IT Admins, directors and managers in my office, as well as several hundred thousand other information systems professionals ridiculous also?

There is a explicit minority of those who enjoy the changes. And it's not because people are looking to be displeased, but because the overwhelming majority think it's the worst thing to happen since Windows ME.

If I wanted to be bent over and forcibly raped, I would have bought iProducts and Mac computers.
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That's the problem with Windows 8. It's very inefficient for those of us who have several windows open at a time. While I have yet to play with it on my multi-monitor setup, so far I horribly dislike it.

And there's no bandwagon. I used it before the "hate-wagon" really started, and genuinely hated it. Yeah Metro is "new" "fresh" I guess even "hip", but for those of us who have some real productivity going on, it's cumbersome, inefficient, expositional, clunky, and poorly thought out.

While there's the hate-wagon, there is also the fan-wagon that floats around here too. Basically Micro$oft can curl out the foulest, paint peeling turd of an OS, and people will, without any inspection or hesitation, eat it with a smile asking for seconds before they even finish their plate. Personally, I find the fan-wagon more of an annoyance than the hate-wagon. At least the latter aren't the ones needing the breath mint.

"This site is ridiculous"

Well then that makes all the IT Admins, directors and managers in my office, as well as several hundred thousand other information systems professionals ridiculous also?

There is a huge minority of those who enjoy the changes. And it's not because people are looking to be displeased, but because the overwhelming majority think it's the worst thing to happen since Windows ME.

If I wanted to be bent over and forcibly raped, I would have bought iProducts and Mac computers.

You ever stopped to think that maybe Windows 8 isn't for your IT infrastructure? That maybe the product isn't targeted for large scale deployments? Microsoft would love to sell it to you, but is it really meant for that? I don't necessarily think so. I think it's more for personal computing, and personal workstations.

Also this isn't ITadmins.net, it's Overclock.net. We're all about bleeding edge software and performance, and being on the cutting edge of technology in general. Early adoption and all that.


Also I fail to see how Metro inhibits your ability to run multiple windows, considering the window management is the same as Windows 7 in desktop mode. Don't use Metro for productivity unless you're on a tablet. So if Win8 is bad at it, Win7 is just as bad.
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I think the future is gesture / touch for the majority. I also see a space in the market for the traditional desktop to code the touch interfaces on

Ms had no need to make w8 for desktops, just give the option to run for devs n funking around with
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Also this isn't ITadmins.net, it's Overclock.net. We're all about bleeding edge software and performance, and being on the cutting edge of technology in general. Early adoption and all that.


Also I fail to see how Metro inhibits your ability to run multiple windows, considering the window management is the same as Windows 7 in desktop mode. Don't use Metro for productivity unless you're on a tablet. So if Win8 is bad at it, Win7 is just as bad.

Well if the majority of OCN hates Windows 8 and it's not IT Admins.net, then ever stop to think it's NOT the bleeding edged software you speak so highly of? Sure a few little improvements were made in memory managment and other performance aspects, but it pales in comparison to the changes being forced upon the rest whom will eventually have to either move on to linux or find a way to hack the crap out of windows and risk making it unstable. Planned obsolecence is the problem here, and one of the real issues is how hard M$ is pushing Metro. In blue, they're already showing progress in removing the classic desktop (which is my real grunt with windows 8...) And even then the classic desktop is an after thought. It's annoying how I have to thumb through this piece of crap software to get anything done. Yeah keyboard shortcuts and all that jazz. I mean If I had a touch screen monitor I might not hate it as much, but to be completely honest, there is nothing so massively improved to be shouting windows 8 to the high graces!

So my main gripe is how they want everyone to move to Metro, they're already working on it (proof is in the coding), and frankly it's a bit Apple-ish.

So you're getting on to the majority about disliking being forced onto a piece of crap OS that doesn't really have much of a noticeable performance benefit, and going on about how it's not ITAdmins.net while the rest of the world hates Windows 8 and you think it's the bee's knees.

Check it like this. Ever think that the "hate-wagon" isn't the hate-wagon and you're just fanboying over M$'s newest toy?

Let's take this a bit further, have you not considered the repercussions for those of us in the software industry? or those of us in the support industry? These new changes are going to breed a special kind of user that is going to be so inept that anything short of remote assistance is going to be hell.

M$ wants all new programs to run in Metro. And that's a new programming nightmare for the rest. Valve even spoke out against it (and they're releasing Steam on Linux which is admittedly, from a Linux user's standpoint, a pain in the ass.)

I mean come on, you guys are whining about all the "haters" when it's not really helping anyone. It's just a damn hipsters envisonment of a "Future" OS that somehow got past the developers table.

Yeah I kinda like Metro on a touch screen device. But otherwise, it's not so much the Implementation on the office aspect, it's going to be the ultimate support aspect of it all that's going to cost companies more than they have invested into their products. Microsoft is not in good graces with software giants already.

At the end of the day, the haters are annoying, and the fanboys are even more annoying. 5% of end users are sitting there oblivious to the world with an idiotic smile on their face attempting to grasp why the world, including software companies, dislike their shiny polished turd of a new toy, while the other 95% are furiously bashing away at their keyboards and making pointless support calls about trying to figure out how to open solitaire. It's a lose lose for everyone.

If the world wanted a Windows phone on their desktop, the world would have bought Windows phones....
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I went hardcore and didn't install a Start replacement and I don't miss it now.

Gotta let go, as I get older I realize keeping all those PS/2->USB adapters is kinda pointless.

I don't quite understand the Metro push for desktop, I bet 0.000001% of users have touchscreen monitors.

Same

I had a new system I wanted to build got a copy when it was cheap, upgraded a Laptop OS and an office computer,

installed Start buttons on the office and Laptop computers and never got around to installing it on the new build, and after amonth or so I went back and uninstalled the start button from the office rig cuz it was too frustrating for it not to work like the desktop.
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