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I've been searching around OC.net and the like but I can't seem to find any conclusive guides that aren't using really high-end components like the GTX titan.
Mainly looking to play MMOs like World of Warcraft (need WoW to be at highest settings with 60fps in high-strain scenarios like 25 man raids and large-scale pvp) as well as some FPS games like Battlefield and CS:GO.

I will buy a short PSU cable kit from Silverstone to help with the clutter. I understand it isn't necessary to pay $100 bucks for a case and spend even more for a small PSU but I really want a minimalist + small form factor PC.

Here is what I have so far

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($290.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($82.83 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Silverstone 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $851.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-02 08:31 EDT-0400)

If I'm royally messing something up like a giant noob, feel free to inform me. I'm new to this so I have a feeling I'm not optimizing my build properly.
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Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($290.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($82.83 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Silverstone 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)

These three are your problem. The PSU and case should cost about $120 together. Maybe spend $60 on each. Also, a $300 GPU is tough to fit into a $700 budget. I'd go with a GTX 660 non-ti if I were you. That'll drop you to $230 there. Find a cheaper PSU. 550w for $115 is just too expensive.
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These three are your problem. The PSU and case should cost about $120 together. Maybe spend $60 on each. Also, a $300 GPU is tough to fit into a $700 budget. I'd go with a GTX 660 non-ti if I were you. That'll drop you to $230 there. Find a cheaper PSU. 550w for $115 is just too expensive.

Agreed. Look at the HD7870s, great value and will yield better performance than a stock clocked GTX 660. For a PSU, pickup a different name brand, Corsair makes a CX500 for like $60. For a case, I was gonna go with the Node 304, but settled with a CM Elite 120 Advanced, I couldn't be happier. Only downside of the CM Elite 120 Ad, is that I have to use AIO watercoolers/low profile/stock coolers.

BTW, I love my i5-3470. Great CPU for the money, OCs to about 4ghz with just a multi bump.
    
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I've been searching around OC.net and the like but I can't seem to find any conclusive guides that aren't using really high-end components like the GTX titan.
Mainly looking to play MMOs like World of Warcraft (need WoW to be at highest settings with 60fps in high-strain scenarios like 25 man raids and large-scale pvp) as well as some FPS games like Battlefield and CS:GO.

I will buy a short PSU cable kit from Silverstone to help with the clutter. I understand it isn't necessary to pay $100 bucks for a case and spend even more for a small PSU but I really want a minimalist + small form factor PC.

Here is what I have so far

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($290.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($82.83 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Silverstone 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $851.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-02 08:31 EDT-0400)

If I'm royally messing something up like a giant noob, feel free to inform me. I'm new to this so I have a feeling I'm not optimizing my build properly.

Welcome to OCN smile.gif

You can reduce the cost of the GPU and still maintain high FPS if you consider going with the 7950 for 269$ plus 2 free games.
The PSU is a bit overpriced, since you can get the excellent Capstone 650M for 74$ (good for two high-end cards in case you SLI/CF in the future).
Otherwise, a quality 400w unit is more than enough. Choose one from this list that's on sale for a good price.

Here's how to put that new rig in your sig:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1258253/how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig
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Agreed. Look at the HD7870s, great value and will yield better performance than a stock clocked GTX 660. For a PSU, pickup a different name brand, Corsair makes a CX500 for like $60. For a case, I was gonna go with the Node 304, but settled with a CM Elite 120 Advanced, I couldn't be happier. Only downside of the CM Elite 120 Ad, is that I have to use AIO watercoolers/low profile/stock coolers.

BTW, I love my i5-3470. Great CPU for the money, OCs to about 4ghz with just a multi bump.

Hey and thank you for your time. I was originally looking at the Sapphire 7870 XT but Newegg is always sold out on them. Here is a link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202024&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Also looking for a GPU that uses a blower cooling system that will blow hot air out the back so it won't heat the inside. I can't seem to find any specific cards that do that but also yield high performance for a good price. Any leads?

As for the Node, unfortunately I fell for the case and I can't seem to switch to anything else. Almost went with a corsair 200R but then the entire build just felt less exciting. Anyway with the Node, I read here that I need a 140mm PSU. Is there any way I can find one that has a better price but will also power my system (either with a 7870 like you guys are suggesting or 660ti)?
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You can reduce the cost of the GPU and still maintain high FPS if you consider going with the 7950 for 269$ plus 2 free games.
The PSU is a bit overpriced, since you can get the excellent Capstone 650M for 74$ (good for two high-end cards in case you SLI/CF in the future).
Otherwise, a quality 400w unit is more than enough. Choose one from this list that's on sale for a good price.

Here's how to put that new rig in your sig:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1258253/how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig

Thank you! And I'll def do a follow-up post with pics after this is all done with (hopefully soon because this build has been stressing me out lol).

As for the GPU, do you know of any that have a blower cooling system? I like your idea of switching away from the 660ti but I need something that will blow the hot air out the back of my case (having to think about that kind of stuff is part of why this build is stressing me out!)

As for the PSU, is it small enough for me to fit my GPU in there and not have any of the cables from the PSU blocked? Some of the posts here showed that some modular PSUs have their cable ports blocked by the GPU so I just want to make sure it will fit =)


edit: what do you think about this 7950? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202030

No reviews yet which is scary.
Edited by verrukt - 4/2/13 at 6:08am
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These three are your problem. The PSU and case should cost about $120 together. Maybe spend $60 on each. Also, a $300 GPU is tough to fit into a $700 budget. I'd go with a GTX 660 non-ti if I were you. That'll drop you to $230 there. Find a cheaper PSU. 550w for $115 is just too expensive.

Thanks for your help! The Node 304 is so completely irrational but for some reason I can't convince myself to go with any other case (which puts me in this unfortunate situation lol).
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Hey and thank you for your time. I was originally looking at the Sapphire 7870 XT but Newegg is always sold out on them. Here is a link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202024&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Also looking for a GPU that uses a blower cooling system that will blow hot air out the back so it won't heat the inside. I can't seem to find any specific cards that do that but also yield high performance for a good price. Any leads?

As for the Node, unfortunately I fell for the case and I can't seem to switch to anything else. Almost went with a corsair 200R but then the entire build just felt less exciting. Anyway with the Node, I read here that I need a 140mm PSU. Is there any way I can find one that has a better price but will also power my system (either with a 7870 like you guys are suggesting or 660ti)?

I have the non XT verison of the HD7870 by Sapphire, same cooling solution in a nutshell. GPU idles 29C - 38C depending on OC, loads at 50C- 60C depending on OC. To be completely honest, blower style coolers are loud and not that efficient. Had one on my eVGA GTX 470, hated every minute that it spooled up while I was gaming. I eventually replaced it with a AC Accelero Xtreme Plus.

As far as a PSU, the Capstone is more than capable, but IMO, overkill. Like I said before you can get away with a different PSU.

Corsair CX500 $59.99 after instant
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
Edited by bluedevil - 4/2/13 at 6:23am
    
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I have the non XT verison of the HD7870 by Sapphire, same cooling solution in a nutshell. GPU idles 29C - 38C depending on OC, loads at 50C- 60C depending on OC. To be completely honest, blower style coolers are loud and not that efficient. Had one on my eVGA GTX 470, hated every minute that it spooled up while I was gaming. I eventually replaced it with a AC Accelero Xtreme Plus.

As far as a PSU, the Capstone is more than capable, but IMO, overkill. Like I said before you can get away with a different PSU.

Corsair CX500 $59.99 after instant
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

With a non-blower GPU, do you think the air that is blowing off the GPU and into the case will cause overheating in a case as small as the Node 304?

I found the modular variant of the CX500: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050 so I might go with that. So I'm assuming the Silverstone PSU I linked originally is so expensive because of the smaller form factor?
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With a non-blower GPU, do you think the air that is blowing off the GPU and into the case will cause overheating in a case as small as the Node 304?

I found the modular variant of the CX500: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050 so I might go with that. So I'm assuming the Silverstone PSU I linked originally is so expensive because of the smaller form factor?

The Node 304 has a very good side vent, so GPU cooling isn't to be a concern. The "pour" from the HSF to the rest of the system is minimal, trust me that 140mm fan in rear (can mount a 120mm fan as well) will do it's job to pull the hot air out. Blower style = bad.
    
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