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Just to get this out in the open, z77, i5 3570k i7 3770k & then the upcoming Haswell I7 4770k's are MAINSTREAM cpu's. You have no idea how silly it is to look upon these monster cases like the cosmos 2 and find out that your running the same CPU as computers that are sold in store for $1000. The same goes for everything else... Like your running windows 8 dude.. just like the rest of us but in a case that looks like it dropped out of space and is WAY too big.

Like my Stryker with a Pentium G840 and a GeForce GT520? I understand that I can put all this in a smaller case for a lot less money, but it's not that simple. Apart from the looks, it's also a lot easier to work with hardware in a larger case because of the extra space.
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Most reviewers do NOT understand the differences between positive & negative air flow & the importance of VALUE in a chassis. It's for this very reason Cooler Master stopped producing quality cases and started pumping out cases like the PLASTIC HAF series & discontinued the ATCS 840's and so on...because people are demanding Bigger sizes, less quality & more crap like led's fan controllers... ugh.

The presence of plastic doesn't automatically make a case poor quality, as the case itself isn't made of it. Take my Stryker (which is a Cooler Master product) for example: It does contain plastic, but that's the front and top panels, hard drive rails, etc. The case itself is high quality steel.
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So the answer as seen from this thread is a big fat : Yes.

Cheers
post #13 of 14
It's all about taste and preference.

Just because we can pack more into less space, m-ATX & i-ATX for example, doesn't mean the bigger components are going to go away.

In the future, smaller video cards will be able to do the work of today's larger video cards but the smaller cards of the future won't be able to do what the large cards of the future can do. The need to run more intense software is a constantly moving target.

To get you an idea of my personal taste..... was looking at doing a m-ATX build in a nice small Fractal case, the Define Mini. However, I've decided I wanted more memory DIMMS so I could do a larger RAM Disk which puts me at full ATX. Mind you, I'm going with a Fractal Design R4 which is a mid-tower and kind of an understated approach but it's still a big case when considering desktop Ultra Slim or SFF form factors. I've looked at mobile systems like the ASUS G75VW which is very compact but these mobile systems still have their limitations on capability and upgradeability, particularly in the graphics arena.

If everyone adopted your line of thinking, we'd all be running ASUS G75VW mobile gaming systems. But, due to taste, preference, and the need or desire to be flexible, we don't.
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It's all about taste and preference.

Just because we can pack more into less space, m-ATX & i-ATX for example, doesn't mean the bigger components are going to go away.

In the future, smaller video cards will be able to do the work of today's larger video cards but the smaller cards of the future won't be able to do what the large cards of the future can do. The need to run more intense software is a constantly moving target.

To get you an idea of my personal taste..... was looking at doing a m-ATX build in a nice small Fractal case, the Define Mini. However, I've decided I wanted more memory DIMMS so I could do a larger RAM Disk which puts me at full ATX. Mind you, I'm going with a Fractal Design R4 which is a mid-tower and kind of an understated approach but it's still a big case when considering desktop Ultra Slim or SFF form factors. I've looked at mobile systems like the ASUS G75VW which is very compact but these mobile systems still have their limitations on capability and upgradeability, particularly in the graphics arena.

If everyone adopted your line of thinking, we'd all be running ASUS G75VW mobile gaming systems. But, due to taste, preference, and the need or desire to be flexible, we don't.

Agreed.
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8GB Crucial DDR4 250 GB Seagate 500 GB Seagate 250 GB Seagate 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Liteon iHAS324 Deepcool Gammaxx S40 No-name fan controller Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit 
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Asus Strix Tactic Pro Cooler Master V 650S CM Storm Stryker Genius Maurus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Razer Goliathus Alpha Yamaha RX-V567 Receiver Sennheiser HD 380 Pro Headphones TEK SP-8008S surround bookshelf speakers 
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TEK SP-8008F tower speakers (Bi-amped) TEK SP-8008C center speaker Logik HTIB sub (blown amp in the TEK) 360W Mecer UPS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Duo P8600 LENOVO 2241B57 Mobile Intel GMA 4500MHD 2 GB 
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