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Those holes are just start holes used to start a larger threaded hole used for the bolts to mount the plate of the heat sink down. If you could look under your heat sink cover you would see a rubber gasket on the inside of it which seals the water on the inside of the block. The holes are nothing to worry about.
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Those holes are just start holes used to start a larger threaded hole used for the bolts to mount the plate of the heat sink down. If you could look under your heat sink cover you would see a rubber gasket on the inside of it which seals the water on the inside of the block. The holes are nothing to worry about.

My block doesn't have the holes but I am guessing they started making the hole all the way through the block to make sure the depth of the hole was deep enough to make sure the bolts have enough thread to secure properly. Another reason for the holes may have been in the production the bits were wearing out and they wanted to make sure the depth was deep enough for tightening so they decided to go all the way through with a starter to make it easier to build.



Nothing to worry about. There is no contact with any surface of the card where the holes are at, water will never reach that hole.
Edited by SonDa5 - 4/3/13 at 3:06am
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post #13 of 24
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Nickel+silver=galvanic coroshion. Most loops have some nickel plated item in them

I use about 15% alcohol works perfectly

is this guy posting inaccurate information? I was under the impression nickel is a metal that will cause no problems in a loop with copper, brass, acetal, silver.....
  
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is this guy posting inaccurate information? I was under the impression nickel is a metal that will cause no problems in a loop with copper, brass, acetal, silver.....


I have had problems with poorly finished nickel on copper VRM block made by koolance. Never had any problems with my nickel plated heat killer block and I use a Monsoon silver bullet in my reservoir and the water quality and block quality is good. Never had any problems with the Monsoon silver bullet and distilled water mixed with copper blocks, copper radiators and nickel plated copper heat killer block.


Generally speaking pure copper is the best way to go and keep everything all copper. Don't mix an aluminum fin radiator with a copper fin radiator. Keep the metal the same.


Good thread on this subject.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280762-Silver-and-nickel-don-t-mix
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post #15 of 24
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I have had problems with poorly finished nickel on copper VRM block made by koolance. Never had any problems with my nickel plated heat killer block and I use a Monsoon silver bullet in my reservoir and the water quality and block quality is good. Never had any problems with the Monsoon silver bullet and distilled water mixed with copper blocks, copper radiators and nickel plated copper heat killer block.


Generally speaking pure copper is the best way to go and keep everything all copper. Don't mix an aluminum fin radiator with a copper fin radiator. Keep the metal the same.


Good thread on this subject.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280762-Silver-and-nickel-don-t-mix

this sort of stinks as i would of bought the copper block but went biggrin.gif off someones word biggrin.gif that the nickle is less prone to corrosion. now if only i could return this and order the copper block.... sucks for me another $200 lost to not -researching further

so now i have a copper radiator. copper waterblock. copper monsta. silver kill coil. and a nickel gpu block am i screwed? can't believe this i thought i was done making mistakes on what i order, i don't really have any money left to keep re-ordering parts frown.gif

i dont even have enough rep here to sell my block and frozencpu will charge %20 to return it and thats $26 loss + shipping and also the fact i cant re-order due to them being out of stock

so pissed right now mad.gif that thread would of saved me a week ago, i would have never ordered anything with nickel on it
Edited by INCREDIBLEHULK - 4/2/13 at 9:07pm
  
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"And yet we find that in systems with silver and nickel, they tend to shed nickel more readily than not. Is it a rash of everyone can't plate nickel, or is it an issue with corrosion (and there are instances where metals that are very close together can still corrode.) Once a pinhole gets in that plating, whether from poor plating or from corrosion, what have you then the nickel and copper themselves will have an issue with each other. It's simply best to avoid nickel. "


I already have a pinhole in the plating frown.gif

Should I add some %15 alcohol or something to my loop on top of dead water and kill coil? I'm obviously stuck with this block for better or for worse frown.gif
  
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post #17 of 24
Fricking return the thing and buy another model already.

Doesn't matter if it was made perfectly and is the best water-cooling block in the world, you're going to give yourself an ulcer & will never be convinced you're safe.
    
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I told you before you are better off with all copper. I have had 2 different nickel plated heatt killer blocks and no problems, they have good reputation for nickel plating finish.

Also your pin holes are fine. They will never make contact with water flow. Quit worrying so much. Water loops require care. I change my water out every 2 months or so and keep a close eye on water. I have clear tubing and reservoir to keep an eye on water.
Edited by SonDa5 - 4/2/13 at 9:51pm
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post #19 of 24
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Fricking return the thing and buy another model already.

Doesn't matter if it was made perfectly and is the best water-cooling block in the world, you're going to give yourself an ulcer & will never be convinced you're safe.

I like to solve problems not avoid them. I'm not going to lose $30 and buy an inferior waterblock.

I can't believe I made the same mistake twice, people really need to stop giving opinions if they hold no factual information behind it.

I'm trying to find the message from this user so I can let him know to stop giving people advice frown.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1378121/silver-copper-nickel-hello-corrosion if by any chance you know anything about mixing metals, i'd love to hear some knowledge.. im googling as we speak frown.gif
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I told you before you are bettet off with all copper. I have had 2 different nickel plated hrat killer blocks and no problems. They havr good reputation for nickel plating finish.

Also your pin holes are fine. They will never make contact with water flow. Quit worrying so much. Water loops require maintinence.
what about this ? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280762-Silver-and-nickel-don-t-mix&p=5098224&viewfull=1#post5098224

I feel stupid putting together the "metals" you shouldnt mix... isn't this the same as me using an aluminum radiator with a copper waterblock ?

maintenance is one thing man... losing $1000 because you mixed metals and corroded everything inside all your blocks is another... i feel like a moron buying $1000 worth of stuff and spending $200 one part that will ruin them alll.... its like pouring milk into your gas tank
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I feel stupid putting together the "metals" you shouldnt mix... isn't this the same as me using an aluminum radiator with a copper waterblock ?

maintenance is one thing man... losing $1000 because you mixed metals and corroded everything inside all your blocks is another... i feel like a moron buying $1000 worth of stuff and spending $200 one part that will ruin them alll.... its like pouring milk into your gas tank

Aluminum and copper is a big no no. Nickel and copper are noble metals and will not suffer as fast.

Remember when I was telling you to get blocks that are rated for high flow? Good flow and clean water help slow down corrosion.

Corrosion is going to happen. No way you can avoid it. I'm sure I told you in PM or in one of your threads that an all copper block with high flow was the best choice. I have given you lots of good advice.

Read this... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280762-Silver-and-nickel-don-t-mix&p=5098224&viewfull=1#post5098224


You are not going to destroy your hardware over night. Build your system and enjoy it and keep a close eye on your water quality and do some maintenance as needed. Big problem with tubing is plasitcides which will clog up the tubing and you will think your water is nasty but you have a reservoir which should show clarity of water.

Water cooling isn't meant to last forever. Most self contained water coolers are only warrantied for 1 year and most water block warranties are only for 1 year as well. This stuff isn't built to last forever.

Quit worrying and enjoy your build. I have ran nickel plated heat killer blocks with copper and distilled water over the last 2 years and my hardware has lasted. I sold my GTX 470 with nickel plated heat killer block for a fair price and bought a HD7950 and Heatkiller nickel plated block and my stuff is holding up fine.


Be mindful of what you are doing and pay attention to stuff that has been presented you. I have shared alot of good info with you and so have others and for a first time build I think you are doing well. Quit worrying so much.

If you don't want your nickel plated block then exchange it and take a hit on the restocking fee and see if vendor can give you a good deal on a different all copper block that you will feel safe with.

I recommend the EK all copper block to you. I think that one will have good flow and will have a good chance of working out well. They have good reputation for proper fitment. Just stay away from EK nickel plating... (I told you that before as well).

For the record my next block for new card will be all copper as well, I haven't had any problems with the nickel plating on my heat killers but I read way too many threads about people having problems with nickel plating. STill its not all bad for everyone. I haven't had any problems. I would enjoy what you have and plan on a new video card upgrade and block in a year or so when some new kick ass hardware comes out and then make your move to copper block for the new card. (this is what I am doing)
Edited by SonDa5 - 4/2/13 at 10:22pm
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