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I finally was able to get my friend into PC Gaming, so now I'm building a PC for him.
Here is what I have come up with so far.

As always Thank you OCN community.

Pc Parts Picker
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/korgothofbarbaria/saved/#savedbuild_325519

CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $209.99
CPU Cooler Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid $59.99
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 $104.99
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $104.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $89.39
Corsair Force Series GT 90GB 2.5" SSD $119.99
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB $297.98
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB $297.98
Case Antec Twelve Hundred V3 ATX Full Tower $160.98
Power Supply SeaSonic 850W ATX12V / EPS12V $131.17
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.96
Total $1597.41

As far as the budget goes we can deviate a little bit from it.


I have been looking at this motheroboard also
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2276156&CatId=6975

I was going to pick the Corsair HX series 850w but their prices went up to $180
And now Im wondering if corsair tx 750w is enough to run this rig with some leg room

Parts that he already has.

Asus 24in Led Monitor 1920x1080 res
random keyboard
logitech g500 mouse
speakers
Win 7 Pro (I won in School)
xbox360 contoler

another idea was to get the second 7950 later in order to save some money since im thinking he will be able to run everything now.
He would like to play Fps,Rpg(skyrim with mods),

Thank you everyone
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post #2 of 39
Here are two alternatives. I don't believe you would need 2 HD7950s right now but you can upgrade later I guess.

Intel:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/IchibahnSLC/saved/1pUz

AMD:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/IchibahnSLC/saved/1pUv
post #3 of 39
You dont need anymore then 550 watts if you only have one video card 550 watts is more then enough

750 watts if you want 2 video cards later

Spend money on PSU quality not over the top wattage you dont need
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post #4 of 39
if you are gaming you arent going to need 16GB of ram, bring it back down to 8GB

also, get the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H, it is a much better board that that ASUS you have listed

You are overpaying for that SSD, get a Samsung 830/840 series, a Crucial M4, or an OCZ Vertex 4 instead. they offer a much better price/GB value and are just as good.

you are also overpaying for an old case. get something like a Fractal Design Arc Midi, or an NZXT Phantom 410.

Also, the Corsair H60 isnt worth it. you should get a good air cooler instead.
post #5 of 39
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Originally Posted by thepoopscooper View Post

if you are gaming you arent going to need 16GB of ram, bring it back down to 8GB

also, get the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H, it is a much better board that that ASUS you have listed

You are overpaying for that SSD, get a Samsung 830/840 series, a Crucial M4, or an OCZ Vertex 4 instead. they offer a much better price/GB value and are just as good.

you are also overpaying for an old case. get something like a Fractal Design Arc Midi, or an NZXT Phantom 410.

Also, the Corsair H60 isnt worth it. you should get a good air cooler instead.

I agree with most of this. I just haven't personally had good luck with the Gigabyte boards. Great luck with the ASUS though. As far as a case goes I just got the same one as the OP because I figured it was personal choice. I love the NZXT Phantom series and recommend that one instead. The H60 would be about the same price as a good air cooler. Maybe a Hyper Evo 212 or a Xigmatek Dark Knight II?

850W is overkill with a good power supply like the Seasonic. He can get away with a Seasonic 550W or 600W with only one card. But since he was thinking 2 HD7950 I figured 850W would be a good one to have some room.
post #6 of 39
Your proposed build has a solid base but you can get some better deals for the money:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Amazon)
Total: $1338.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-02 13:45 EDT-0400)

The H60, as others said is pricy and a poor performer, I would rather go for an high-end aircooler like the Prolimatech Megahalems for the same price.

As for the memory, 8GB is far overkill already unless you run some really heavy programs like scientific calculations etc. also the Viper 3 I chose have great overclock capatibilities and run at 1866, that deal shouldn't stay long on Amazon so I'd hurry up wink.gif

The Caviar Blue WD10EZEX is actually a better performer than the Black and this althrough being a Blue: it's WD's only single-platter 1TB drive thus it's significantly faster, see more info here.

Also, the Plextor M5S is a significantly better performer than the Corsair too and doesn't suffer from Sandforce performance reduction with incompressible files while being very cheap at $85.

Then, the Antec chassis you chose is a bit ancient and not really space-efficient... I'd rather go for a more precise chassis like the Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 or the Corsair 500R for example - they're roomy but not oversized.



To conclude, the PSU you selected isn't a design that has high-end electronics (the M12II isn't bad either but you can get better internals), 650W is more than enough for a 7950 Crossfire (remember that you'll get a CPU with 77W TDP and each card 175W TDP) and the Rosewill Capstone is a great unit: 80+ Gold rated and based-off Super Flower Golden Green internals.

Oh and one more thing, if he's at 1080p the single HD 7950 is far overkill already so I'd really start by going with one card... at the time he'll want an upgrade there will be much newer tech to upgrade with. thumb.gif
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post #7 of 39
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

You dont need anymore then 550 watts if you only have one video card 550 watts is more then enough

750 watts if you want 2 video cards later

Even 500W for a single-card and 650W for Crossfire would be more than enough.
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Even 500W for a single-card and 650W for Crossfire would be more than enough.
Yes i meant as a max
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post #9 of 39
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IchibahnSLC
Nice find on the Corsair memory and the better SSD.
I like Corsair as far as their quality goes. Excellent point on the memory as far as needing only 8gb. My friend is going from using a dell from 2001 with 768mb of memory, so this 8gb will be a blast for him!!

thepoopscooper
On the cooling section,scraping the H60. My friend is blown away that computers can be water cooled, when we discussed to what he wanted in his build he made water cooled cpu a must have. Because he is an entry level PC gamer/user he would not be able to handle/maintain a real water cooling setup,
so now Im thinking a better version like IchibahnSLC sugested the h80 ...any other suggestions?
My friend lives far so Im trying to use all the worry free components so that the chances of them breaking are a lot less. As far as I go i can use what ever components because I can mainly fix it myself smile.gif


As far as the video cards go I will get one 7950 for now, and get a second one later once it gets cheaper.

He chose the Antec 1200 v3 mainly because he likes blue Leds, but I will persuade him into a better case and put bleu led fan in it.As others have stated antec 1200 is an older design so Ill select couple of them in the $100-$120 range an go from there.
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post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by adridu59 View Post

Your proposed build has a solid base but you can get some better deals for the money:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Amazon)
Total: $1338.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-02 13:45 EDT-0400)

The H60, as others said is pricy and a poor performer, I would rather go for an high-end aircooler like the Prolimatech Megahalems for the same price.

As for the memory, 8GB is far overkill already unless you run some really heavy programs like scientific calculations etc. also the Viper 3 I chose have great overclock capatibilities and run at 1866, that deal shouldn't stay long on Amazon so I'd hurry up wink.gif

The Caviar Blue WD10EZEX is actually a better performer than the Black and this althrough being a Blue: it's WD's only single-platter 1TB drive thus it's significantly faster, see more info here.

Also, the Plextor M5S is a significantly better performer than the Corsair too and doesn't suffer from Sandforce performance reduction with incompressible files while being very cheap at $85.

Then, the Antec chassis you chose is a bit ancient and not really space-efficient... I'd rather go for a more precise chassis like the Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 or the Corsair 500R for example - they're roomy but not oversized.



To conclude, the PSU you selected isn't a design that has high-end electronics (the M12II isn't bad either but you can get better internals), 650W is more than enough for a 7950 Crossfire (remember that you'll get a CPU with 77W TDP and each card 175W TDP) and the Rosewill Capstone is a great unit: 80+ Gold rated and based-off Super Flower Golden Green internals.

Oh and one more thing, if he's at 1080p the single HD 7950 is far overkill already so I'd really start by going with one card... at the time he'll want an upgrade there will be much newer tech to upgrade with. thumb.gif

Not this is a prime example to what this community is awesome! For example the Caviar Blue WD10EZEX is better than the WD Caviar Black because it uses 1 platter!!! Sweet... its little things like this that matter to me a lot, since I definitively didn't think about that a all.

adridu59 its been a little bit since i researched PSU's. Back in the day around 2004-2005 FSP group used to make the best PSU by way overdoing on the internals, then it was the Seasonic and PC Power and Cooling then around 2009 Corsair seemed to do well. Could you suggest couple more of high end high quality PSU's of today?
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