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post #21 of 30
I honestly don't know how people are so ignorant lol. You use google FOR FREE.
You don't pay anything, they don't require you to be logged in to your account. You use it for free, every day. The internet is a freaking universe of data and people, if you truly want to be all private, don't use the internet at all, or go to the library and do it on that computer.

Get over it, google is by far the best service when it comes to a lot of things. Yes they are not goodie goodies or anything, but no company is, or ever was/will be. So don't react like this is some kind of insanity that google is doing.
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I honestly don't know how people are so ignorant lol. You use google FOR FREE.
You don't pay anything, they don't require you to be logged in to your account. You use it for free, every day. The internet is a freaking universe of data and people, if you truly want to be all private, don't use the internet at all, or go to the library and do it on that computer.

Get over it, google is by far the best service when it comes to a lot of things. Yes they are not goodie goodies or anything, but no company is, or ever was/will be. So don't react like this is some kind of insanity that google is doing.

Blah blah blah. Another post that goes with 'it is free this it is free that'.

It has nothing to do with it being free, go read the article.
   
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Bah, same tired arguments. It's good that somebody stands up for privacy. I don't see why corporations should just go unhindered about collecting data, nor do I see why so many deem that the natural order of things. It's irrelevant whether the data is randomized or not - at one point, when it will count they'll still be able to pull something not so random about you.

This is a major liability no matter how you put. It won't bother you until it will, but then it will be too late.
post #24 of 30
I kind of want to do whatever I want on the internet without the constant feeling of "I'm being watched, bad idea to read this controversial article/book". I'm aware that anonymity creates problems though. If only there was a way to catch 'bad' people without having to monitor everybody, but who determines what's 'bad'? =x Tor browser isn't really a solution.

Perhaps we need a system that measures intent =).
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Honestly, that is even stupider than the monopoly inquiry. At least with the former, the reasoning isn't based on a circular chain of broken and convoluted logic, but is (somewhat) representative of the European societal values. But the privacy policy thing? It's so obvious that it is much better than the previous system of numerous policies, that any regulatory complaints about it either demonstrates a massively corrupt money grab (coincidence that many Euro countries are on the verge of bankruptcy?), or just sheer stupidity, with both of those two scenarios being equally abhorrent...

ERm, no I think it's referring to the fact you couldn't opt out of thing or the fact that they scan your GMail to sell ads to you.

But sure, play yet anouther ignorant American suggesting that European countries are bankrupt and are doing this for a money grab. We don't have another of those.
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Right now my ads consist of gardening equipment, I was looking around for a temperature controlled window opener and ordered it, the ads came after the purchase. My next purchase will be books, the ads for books will come after that.

My information yields profits to someone, but it isn't the company selling stuff.
Amazon does that to me. As a joke I sent someone a link of some "adult toy" and after that I had recommendations for whips and strap ons.
post #27 of 30
Most people will say "It's okay because it's Google." Which is unfortunate considering they're not really setting a good standard of privacy.

Now what Google's trying to do here is not a big deal. YouTube, Gmail, Google search, Google+ all have different privacy policies. They're just wanting to make a unified GOOGLE privacy policy. Nothing wrong with that.

The problem is that many readers will not even dig that deep and simply say "Google is awesome and would never do anything wrong". Not true, unfortunately.
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In general, all I can say is who cares? Arguments on both sides of this are just plain silly. At the end of the day, if people didn't like google, they wouldn't be using it enough to care what they do, Let people speak with their wallets freely given or not given, easily falsified information, that your government, ISP, and a couple hundred relays already have. Yeah, I went there.
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Anyway, the issue here is that according to EU laws you need to be able to opt out of everything privacy related, and Google doesn't allow that. Once again EU sticking up for consumer rights = cash strapped EU? rolleyes.gif
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I honestly don't know how people are so ignorant lol. You use google FOR FREE.
You don't pay anything, they don't require you to be logged in to your account. You use it for free, every day. The internet is a freaking universe of data and people, if you truly want to be all private, don't use the internet at all, or go to the library and do it on that computer.

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please get yourself a ghostery addon to firefox and then browse entire day and tell me that i am still a paranoic. cause on every page you get shown x trackers. here on ocn i see right now 5. so yeah they are collecting information on everyone 24/7. i like google and youtube but they are already "too big, to not be evil"

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