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I'd love a sneak peek at a skylake processor
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post #32 of 50
Sigh @ all the money Intel has.
post #33 of 50
This "coincidentally" coincides with an increased duration between GPU generations. Imagine that...

As I have stated in multiple other threads: We need to prepare for decreased performance jumps, and longer gaps between new tech. I have this feeling that If i go Enthusiast route for my next build in 2014, say a socket 2011 equivalent and 1 or 2 TOP end GPUs, I should be set for quite some time.
 
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TSMC claims that they already have 3D FinFET 14nm wafers, but we won't see them until 2014/2015.
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post #35 of 50
Haven't you guys seen the movie"The Last Mimzy?" In the future people are gonna need our help and they will do so by sending by a teddy bear made of nano-intel chips. Geez!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ujW0w3g7O2c#t=219s should start at 3:39 mark if not go to 3:39 and watch for about 1:45 seconds. The whole movie is free to watch in 9 parts on youtube.
Edited by drnilly007 - 4/2/13 at 8:37pm
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I'm still expecting one or two more big jumps, as we move away from silicon into materials that are better suited. But eventually things will slow down, and we'll have to improve technology in other ways. For the moment, I'm planning on letting the geniuses that devote their life to figuring out what that way is do their thing, and I'll enjoy what they produce. thumb.gif
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post #37 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

hmm, you're right, looks like 450mm wafers won't start until 2015, it's the FAB they are building this year.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20130118165856_Intel_to_Start_Building_First_Dedicated_450mm_Fab_This_Year.html

The main point I was making is that Intel will start 14nm Broadwell production at the end of this year.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20130118154034_Intel_on_Track_to_Start_Making_14nm_Broadwell_Chips_in_2013.html

Yes this is true. I will be making those wink.gif and thats about all I can say without endangering my job...
post #38 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

While it is certainly possible that we are getting to the point where dieshrink are producing deminishing return in performance, It will continue to reduces per chip production cost.

But it isn't, the law fails because the cost is so high. Not because the "shrink" is inadequate ?

dunx

P.S. Silicon is nearly done, time for a new substrate....
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post #39 of 50
so what is the smallest possible nm we can shrink b4 changing away from silicon semi-conductor
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As silly as it sounds it would be bad business for Intel to beat up on AMD to badly. They need AMD to be a viable alternative.

You see lets say Intel decided enough, is enough and they open a can of whoop ass on AMD and drive them into the dust. Intel immediately becomes a defacto monopoly and the federal government begins getting into Intel hard and fast. Intel could very quickly find itself under government scrutiny that it does not want, even to the point of price controls.

By keeping AMD viable they actually give themselves a chance to make more money.
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