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I've had my T1090BE sitting at 4.2ghz for a while now, and its running stable on benches. Peeking at 63-66C warmer than I wanted but it's been running fine for years now
Ram is at 1667 mhz at 3000mhz NB it's really snappy.

But there are alot of games that I just cant play on high, I was wondering if I were to get the new MSI 7970 if it would be worth doing, or wait for something newer, or if there are any other components I should seek out first.

My current card is only a HD 5770, it's old but it overclocked really well, currently at 982/1425 peeking at 82C on full load. (around 24-28 ambient). (I went a bit overboard when I was looking at new cards, but so far is hasn't had any artifacts or signs of failure so I haven't been bothered to change it lol)

I haven't got an SSD, but wondering if it would make much of an impact vs the 7970.

Advice?
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You are most likely GPU limited right now so a new GPU would be your best investment in my opinion. A 7970 should give you a very large improvement over your 5770 (maybe even a bit overkill if you are running at 1920x1080). I don't think an SSD will help you get better frame rates during gaming. I'm guessing, too, that your 1090 at 4.2 will be sufficient to push a 7970 so you should be good with the rest of your system. I say go for a new card (maybe even a 7950?) and see what happens thumb.gif but let's see what other people say.
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Ssd would give significant system wide performance increase, and its the kind of change that once its done, you wont go back for OS install and daily programs
It may improve games if they stutter on you HDD. I know my gameplay experience was stuttery until i got ssd, but it doesnt have to be like that, i know plenty of people who run games smooth on good old 7200 16mb cache drives

On the other hand, getting a 7970 will make a huge impact in fps in games, so i suggest you either get a ssd soon after the 7970, or go 7950 + 60gb ssd for os and one game and overclock the gpu to bring close to 7970 performance
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I've had my T1090BE sitting at 4.2ghz for a while now, and its running stable on benches. Peeking at 63-66C warmer than I wanted but it's been running fine for years now
Ram is at 1667 mhz at 3000mhz NB it's really snappy.

But there are alot of games that I just cant play on high, I was wondering if I were to get the new MSI 7970 if it would be worth doing, or wait for something newer, or if there are any other components I should seek out first.

My current card is only a HD 5770, it's old but it overclocked really well, currently at 982/1425 peeking at 82C on full load. (around 24-28 ambient). (I went a bit overboard when I was looking at new cards, but so far is hasn't had any artifacts or signs of failure so I haven't been bothered to change it lol)

I haven't got an SSD, but wondering if it would make much of an impact vs the 7970.

Advice?

My upgrade advice: An SSD will definitely make an impact on your system, but not on the playability of your games. The 5770 is definitely holding you back in graphically intensive games. Also, I would upgrade DDR3 to 8GB since it isn't that pricey, but that is just me. What is your estimated budget for your upgrade? My order of priority would be Graphics Card > RAM > SSD. Don't get me wrong, the SSD will definitely add some performance to your system. I just see the graphics card as the best upgrade path because it will more directly affect the performance in games. RAM is a close second because the more you have, the better you can multitask and run those larger games. As far as which would make more impact, the 5770 just can't handle the games at the level you want so an SSD won't change that. Hope this helps!
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A new video card would be better for your games VS the SSD, but you should get both anyway.
You don't need to spend a ton for the drive, a 64-128GB one is more than enough for OS some programs and you can keep games on a mech drive.
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My sig is a little out dated, I'm currently running 4x 2GB sticks 2x dual channel at 1667 mhz @ 8-9-8-25 (1600 sticks) stock voltage. Ram is one of the things I don't like to overvolt, You should see the draw I have full of dead sticks lol. One day I'll cash in my "Lifetime Warranty" lol.

Seems everyone thinks the 7970 is the best idea. Is it better than the NVidia GTX cards? Like the NVIDIA GTX670 4GB ASUS which is similarly priced.

I've always gone with ATI, being an AMD addict. I've owned two Nvidia cards in AMD systems and both have caused problems for me. I also heard that the ATI cards are pulling ahead with the newer games, TressFX for example.
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About the SSD, is it worth while getting a really good one? Somewhere near 1GBps transfer speeds, or just getting a cheap one like 300/400 ish?

Because I could get the 7970 first as you said, then get the SSD later, rather than getting the 7950 and a cheap ssd, or would the SSD speed not make much difference for gaming?
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Only thing a SSD typically affects for games are load times, but its' a terrific upgrade for overall system performance.

Don't need to shell out top dollar for the most expensive SSDs, real-world performance differences aren't worth it.
You could just get yourlself a good deal on a 120-128 Samsung or Crucial like most do here and be happy smile.gif
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My sig is a little out dated, I'm currently running 4x 2GB sticks 2x dual channel at 1667 mhz @ 8-9-8-25 (1600 sticks) stock voltage. Ram is one of the things I don't like to overvolt, You should see the draw I have full of dead sticks lol. One day I'll cash in my "Lifetime Warranty" lol.

Seems everyone thinks the 7970 is the best idea. Is it better than the NVidia GTX cards? Like the NVIDIA GTX670 4GB ASUS which is similarly priced.

I've always gone with ATI, being an AMD addict. I've owned two Nvidia cards in AMD systems and both have caused problems for me. I also heard that the ATI cards are pulling ahead with the newer games, TressFX for example.

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About the SSD, is it worth while getting a really good one? Somewhere near 1GBps transfer speeds, or just getting a cheap one like 300/400 ish?

Because I could get the 7970 first as you said, then get the SSD later, rather than getting the 7950 and a cheap ssd, or would the SSD speed not make much difference for gaming?

Gotcha on the ram. I would go graphics card and good SSD later. It's just like anything else, you get what you pay for. The 7950 is a great graphics card and I have nothing against it. As far as Nvidia VS ATI, they are just like processors. The Nvidia cards have the CUDA cores, but ATI has higher memory bandwidth in similar price brackets. Honestly, the high end cards for Nvidia and ATI are both really good, but price/performance generally stands highest with ATI IMO, but that's just me.

The read/write speeds are what make SSDs worth the money. If you go cheap, you get a decent experience, but if you go balls-out and get a good one, you will get a better experience. Honestly, you technically can't go wrong, but MY suggestion is to do both upgrades with as high a quality as you want, even if you have to wait a month or two.

EDIT: You were asking about Nvidia. The 7970, regular edition and GHz edition, both are right on par with the 680. The regular 7970 can be up to 50 bucks cheaper than a 680. Just my basic analysis from benchmarks and Newegg pricing. Look here. This is just one site and it seems to be ATI favored, you will of course find sites that favor Nvidia as well.
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The 7970 will be leaps and bounds better then your card and give you some more time to keep that CPU. Also a 7950 is still a option with a nice SSD but at the end of the day I would still buy a 7970 just because it is the top card.
Edited by vSpooKy - 4/2/13 at 12:39pm
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