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I posted here quite some time ago asking for help with a first build and within a week my car died, shortly after I moved, and life has not been kind to my wallet! SO! I plan on remaking my build with newer parts, scrapping the old one entirely and any suggestions would be well appreciated!
My budget is $800, but if its worth it I can go higher.

Goals: Fairly cheap $800-1000 beginner gaming computer, also to be used for daily activities.
CPU: FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (lightly overclocked)
Cooler: HR-02 Macho ?
Mobo: ASUS AMD 990FX ?
SSD: 120Gb+ (Will be buying near end of april, and may ask if anyone has spotted deals by then!)
HDD: 2Tb Barracuda 7200
RAM: Patriot 8Gb 1600Mhz Black Viper 3
GPU: HD HD 7870 Ghz EZ 2Gb (Correct me if I'm wrong but is this not the same as the XT with tahiti chip?)
PSU: Capstone 650w
Case: Bitfenix Shinobi

Any suggestions would be great! Of course I'll be looking things up on my own so I'm not 100% relying on you guys, just for opinions and improvements! Likely building in the next couple weeks, not today
Edited by noobiest - 4/7/13 at 11:40pm
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You sould not go below a 650 watts if you want Crossfire
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Make sure you get a Vishera AMD processor, also your RAM should be at a minimum of 1600MHz especially if you are gonna overclock.

Quad: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287

Hexa: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286
Edited by famous1994 - 4/2/13 at 6:31pm
 
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AMD FX-6300 95W, 6 core, 3.5GHz - $128.69 @TigerDirect
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4904562&CatId=7339

Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 990FX chipset, 8+2 VRM, $134.99 @NCIX
http://us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=62403&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1332

or

ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (990FX chipset), digi 6+2 VRM $134.99 after $10 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851

Thermalright True Spirit 120M $29.95 shipped @ NansGamingGear
http://www.nansgaminggear.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TS-120M

Patriot 8GB DDR3-1600 Black Viper 3 (2x4GB) $39.99 + $2.99 shipping @ frys.com
Model: PV38G160C9K DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 @1.50v
http://www.frys.com/product/7323254?site=sa:Homepage:Spot1

XFX 650W PRO650W Core Edition 80PLUS Bronze (Seasonic build) $62.99 after $10 rebate @ ncix
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616&vpn=P1650SNLB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1334

XFX 750W PRO750W Core Edition 80PLUS Bronze (Seasonic build) $77.99 after $15 rebate @ ncix
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59617&vpn=P1750SNLB9&manufacture=XFX

Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB price all went up. $120 at ncix is the lowest
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77218&manufacture=Samsung%20Memory%20&%20Storage&promoid=1368

TOSHIBA DT01ACA300 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s (Hitachi rebrand) $115
promo code "EMCXSXV37" 48 hr only
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-149-408&Tpk=N82E16822149408

PowerColor AX7870 Radeon HD 7870 GHz EZ Edition (Tahiti LE) $234.99 after $10 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-131-487&Tpk=N82E16814131487

or wait for the Myst edition to come back in-stock (hopefully before the promo code ends)

[out of stock] Powercolor 7870 PCS+ MYST w/ 2 free games $209 (no rebate)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1374985/newegg-powercolor-7870-pcs-myst-tahiti-le-with-2-free-games-209-no-rebate-alive-again





True Spirit 140 or Macho Rev A is you are going for overclocking. Spirit 140 is a tall heatsink make sure your case has room for it.
Hitachi (now Toshiba) driver are on par with WD Red series (Hitachi doesn't cripple the firmware. great in RAID setup).
for a cheaper motherboard (990X chipset is only 8x/8x while 990FX is 16x/16x).

ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0, 990X chipset, digi 6+2 VRM $109.99 after $20 rebate
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76030&vpn=M5A99X%20EVO%20R2%2E0&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1379


AMD motherboard Sale Round-Up
http://www.overclock.net/t/1369005/amd-motherboard-sale-round-up#post_19470008

PC Cooling Sale Round-Up
http://www.overclock.net/t/1367897/pc-cooling-sale-round-up
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never mind
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Originally Posted by famous1994 View Post

Make sure you get a Vishera AMD processor, also your RAM should be at a minimum of 1600MHz especially if you are gonna overclock.

Quad: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287

Hexa: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286
Those were actually the two processors I was thinking of. Another choice is the old Phenom II, but not sure. Since the Phenom does work on AM3+ i could always upgrade it which is why it is in mind, if I feel like putting more funds elsewhere. Could also go 8 core, but personally I don't think I'll use it to full potential. I rarely do video editing or anything that is terribly multi-core demanding.

Also, any links would be for reference, not exact pricing. I won't be buying it this minute, although soon hopefully. I'll be checking the top sites I know of for prices before buying. I flat out love Newegg simply because of the details they add to each product. Most sites have very little info, so I usually use it to look up items/builds whether purchased from there or not. So Heuchler, thank you so much for all of the effort you put in for me, but you don't have to be quite that price specific haha.

But you were also looking at the exact graphics card and SSD I was staring at. Haven't heard of the True Spirit, so I may have to look into that.
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Current build roughly $950 with no aftermarket cooler/paste.
May have to cut back on hard drives.
Still not sure about power supply, but everything else seems solid and worth the price.
More than I hoped to spend, less than I could, thank you guys for all the help!

Also as I'm new to this, how can you measure for clearance if you're going with a large aftermarket cooler? I'm afraid of getting one too big for my case. (As my friend did, now just runs it with no side panel.)
post #8 of 15
You don't need thermal paste. Just use the stuff that comes with your cooler. As for tower size - product specifications on coolers should tell you their height, product specifications on cases should tell you their max heatsink clearance...

P.S. as to the people mentioning crossfire - the budget isn't good enough & monitor probably isn't fancy enough to benefit anyway.


fx-6300 from newegg - $130
Cooler: HR-02 macho from amazon for strong performance ($55) for light overclocks on the cheap, xigmatek gaia from newegg ($20)

Mobo: gigabyte 970a-ud3 ($104)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
Going to be just fine for overclocking, not paying through the nose for a second video card slot.

SSD: Samsung Pro is pointlessly expensive. At nose-bleed speeds of quality SSDs, they're all the same. Samsung 840 120gb: $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188

HDD: Don't over pay for the few years of warranty on WD Black. They have no actual performance benefit. Barracuda 2TB ($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1334

RAM: Frys, $40

PSU: NO RAIDMAX. Get this XFX 550w for $64
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1257

GPU: Powercolor $249

Better Case: $70
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&vpn=BFC%2DSNB%2D150%2DKKN1%2DRP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1395

There, your budget is down to $847 with a better case, much better PSU, includs a good cpu cooler (HR-02 Macho) & no loss in performance.
    
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Originally Posted by MisterFred View Post

P.S. as to the people mentioning crossfire - the budget isn't good enough & monitor probably isn't fancy enough to benefit anyway.

fx-6300 from newegg - $130
Cooler: HR-02 macho from amazon for strong performance ($55) for light overclocks on the cheap, xigmatek gaia from newegg ($20)

Mobo: gigabyte 970a-ud3 ($104)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
Going to be just fine for overclocking, not paying through the nose for a second video card slot.

SSD: Samsung Pro is pointlessly expensive. At nose-bleed speeds of quality SSDs, they're all the same. Samsung 840 120gb: $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188

HDD: Don't over pay for the few years of warranty on WD Black. They have no actual performance benefit. Barracuda 2TB ($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1334

RAM: Frys, $40

PSU: NO RAIDMAX. Get this XFX 550w for $64
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1257

GPU: Powercolor $249

Better Case: $70
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&vpn=BFC%2DSNB%2D150%2DKKN1%2DRP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1395.
Budget for crossfire is more like future proofing. I don't plan to crossfire immediately, but in a year or two if I want a little extra kick, I wouldn't mind throwing another couple hundred at it. But i suppose if I had money to spare i could always get a new mobo and switch everything over anyways, products only improve over time.
Thank you very much for the additions, finding the right cooler confuses me (Probly just because I'm new), and although I know mobos make a difference, I haven't gone into detail on them so I honestly can't say what is best.
SSDs are SSDs, all are high speed, but when I first looked into them they had reliability issues. I'll assume they're getting past that now and guaranteed to be a speed increase.
I do love the barracuda HDDs, although I've heard complaints of some being loud.
Raidmax always has great reviews and looks nice, but I've never had them personally so I'll take your advice, but would prefer modular.

Two main comments - I've never heard of Powercolor, is it any good? And what makes a tower "better" besides appearance?
Edited by noobiest - 4/3/13 at 11:21am
post #10 of 15
If your going to go crossfire + increase volts on your GPU + CPU then I would say get your self a 750w. Your going to need it in the future also a little head room is always good ( im not expert )

also the gigabytye 990fxa-ud3 is a SOLID board
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