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So I currently am using a 955 at Stock clocks , 8GB of DDR2 Memory , and a GTX 275 . 

 

With my laptop being an I7 2630QM Paired with an Nvidia 525M and 6GB of DDR3.

 

I would like to stream games like Starcraft , Dota 2 , League of legends and such. I had an i7 870 with a AMD 6870 and was able to do so. 

 

Im looking for a solution for Mobile and a Desktop. 

 

Ideally Id like to be able to stream from my Desktop ( Which I plan to build a new one) and Purchase a laptop capable of just being able to play the few games on the go , seeing as how i travel quite a few times a year and my be moving around quite a bit in the next 6 months to a year. 

 

Ive used AMD for quite sometime but nothing has compared to the i7 I used in my desktop.

 

If I wanted to build a new PC not Waiting for haswell , and to stream would I need a i5 or an i7 with Hyperthreading or would the cheapest possible paired with a 7850 or 7870 do the trick.

 

As Far as a Laptop goes would Investing in a Laptop with a 660 be worth the ivestment or just Dump the money into one or the other. 

 

 

I dont have a ton of space , I cant carry a desktop all over the place , I may be moving across the State and traveling atleast 4+ times in the next 6 months for atleast 1+4 Weeks. 

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post #2 of 12
I say to invest it all into a laptop and go from there. You said you'd be moving around alot, so why hinder your mobile performance with a cheaper laptop?

The Clevo P151EM1 has been a laptop I've seen myself recommending a lot as of late. If not just for the free upgrade to the 670MX. I've seen how well they overclock and the 670MX is the best bang for buck on the market, especially with it being a free upgrade and all. biggrin.gif

That'll do everything you need it to do. You do need to buy an operating system with it but that's not a big deal. tongue.gif Another $80 never hurt anyone. tongue.gif
     
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That's an awkward situation that you are in right now, wanting to upgrade both at the same time, especially so close to Haswell's release and Nvidia's 700m series GPU's just having come out.

For the desktop, you can upgrade at any time, Haswell or not, and any quad core i5 will suit you just fine, and you can pair whatever GPU you want with that. Haswell will bring some features and some better performance but if you really don't want to wait then you don't have to.

The most awkward situation is with the laptop. You want something right now so that you can be gaming on the go ASAP, but Nvidia's 700 series cards haven't been fully flushed out, and the ones that have been released are still sparse. Thankfully though there is currently a 700 series that would fit your needs, the 750M so if you wanted the latest hardware out right now (though it's really just a minor update over the last series) then that would be a good GPU, but even the 740M would be good. Once models start getting replaced with the 700M series, then their 600M series counterparts will go on sale. Hardware refreshes are a great time to buy an ASUS at the same price that Clevo barebones go for. While you normally save crap tons of money by going with a Clevo barebone or MSI laptop, neither of them are as good as ASUS laptops typically (especially when you factor in warranty). ASUS doesn't seem to have updated their laptops with the 700M series yet but I am sure that they will if a few weeks, then you will see some model numbers go on sale so if you want to wait a couple of weeks and see what happens there, so that you can get a better laptop, then go ahead on do that.

Of course, the biggest money savings is if you waited for Haswell, then Ivy Bridge models will get very large discounts and you could pick up a good Ivy Bridge system then, but that's nearly 2 months out still. And you can't do this game where you wait for new tech to come out with Clevo barebone based computers because they don't have a huge stock they need to get rid of when the change happens, so you don't have a bunch of retailers and people on Amazon giving you a big discount so if you are thinking of using this new-tech strategy for the less expensive gaming laptops, it just won't work out that well.

Too bad you don't have this situation happening in a couple of months with Haswell! The CPU, power, and integrated GPU optimization are definitely going to be felt in laptops. But, for your current situation I suggest two things, first: http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-n56dpdh11-p-4979.html This laptop will play games at medium settings, it looks nice, has a really good warranty (1 year accidental is included), comes with an operating system, and it's fairly cheap. You can then spend the rest of your money getting a good desktop.

Second suggestion goes along Imglindinhere's suggestion, and just get a really nice laptop. You will find that when you have a nice laptop, your desktop gets rather neglected and goes unused. Why use your desktop when you can take your laptop to the couch? The bed? Heck, even the toilet! It happened to me and my desktop and it could happen to you. Yes, I can't game as well on the laptop as I can on the desktop, but I can still game pretty damned well. In this case, I'd go all out and get something very nice like this: http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt60-0ne403us-p-5317.html?wconfigure=yes Only thing I'd change on it is the 12GB of RAM to 16GB (3 DIMMS is dumb, it's a dual-channel chipset so either fill 2 or 4, not 3 or 1 xP) And it comes with a 2 year standard, 1 year accidental warranty.

But to be honest, I wouldn't go the route of doing both laptop and dekstop until Haswell comes out. Haswell will bring more powerful, more portable, and more affordable laptops with it so if you're going to run a tight budget, you'll get WAY more bang for your buck with Haswell.
post #4 of 12
Well, you did said you'll be moving out in next 6 months, so I think you can wait till intel Haswell to come out.
If you are willingly to wait for few months, otherwise I would say grab a decent laptop for your use.
Try go to TigerDirect, they do have some laptops on sales there. Some have IGP and other have a dedicated GPU.
     
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http://www.xoticpc.com/forcemsi-16f3-22001-670m-msi-gt60-barebones-p-4346.html

 

http://www.xoticpc.com/force-qal51fhd-compal-qal51-p-4808.html?wconfigure=yes&change_view=ddm

 

http://www.xoticpc.com/force-16ga009-msi-16ga-msi-ge60-barebones-p-5035.html

 

So Far just from Xotic IM looking at these Obvisouly I would Upgrade the CPU To an i7 , Just not sure whats more worth getting  , If the 660 , 670 , 650 , 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312438

 

I also thought this might be a good deal.

 

 

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np6110-clevo-w110er-p-4343.html?wconfigure=yes

 

Considering this one as well , however not sure if its worth getting a 650 in any regard. 


Edited by Bdebrooke - 4/5/13 at 1:09pm
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I came up with this in roughly 5 minutes for a small Desktop Build this would run me around 750.

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Well I guess a fried of mine forced my hand for now , Im buying his desktop an i5-2500 , 8GB DDR3 , 128 samsung , a 1TB Drive and a 6950 with a case PSU etc for 600

 

 

So I think Ill wait till later on for a laptop , But Id still like to know whether or not getting the 660 or the 670 is worth it due to some 670's being the less performing rebranded 570 GPU's

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Well I guess a fried of mine forced my hand for now , Im buying his desktop an i5-2500 , 8GB DDR3 , 128 samsung , a 1TB Drive and a 6950 with a case PSU etc for 600


So I think Ill wait till later on for a laptop , But Id still like to know whether or not getting the 660 or the 670 is worth it due to some 670's being the less performing rebranded 570 GPU's

The 670M is a rebranded 570M, yes. However the 670MX is the Kepler-based GPU.


This is the second or third thread you've made about this topic... yet you always go back to just using a desktop despite your situation pretty much telling you not to go for a desktop.
     
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Well I guess a fried of mine forced my hand for now , Im buying his desktop an i5-2500 , 8GB DDR3 , 128 samsung , a 1TB Drive and a 6950 with a case PSU etc for 600


So I think Ill wait till later on for a laptop , But Id still like to know whether or not getting the 660 or the 670 is worth it due to some 670's being the less performing rebranded 570 GPU's


Buy a Gaming laptop, you won't regret it ever! Nothing beats being able to carry your monitor, keyboard and components around = Laptop thumb.gif You can sit at the airport, plug in your laptop and game away while on layovers (Or if your like me who take 25-35hr train rides around China while I'm there) I plug in my laptop to a outlet on the train and game away for hours on end to kill time while traveling. If you're a traveler on the move, its best to just get a gaming laptop and go from there if you want to game or just carry around powerful hardware for vacation video editing on the go or editing your photos of you on your travels_ I'm trying to give you a really good reason to go the laptop route haha biggrin.gif
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