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Hi everyone!

I hope I'm posting in the right subforum...
I am pretty new to water cooling and case modding, but to keep within my usual pattern my first project is insane.
I want to build a custom case for watercooling a X79 build, but got almost no idea if my plan is going to work out.

System Specs:

Intel i7 3970X
Asrock X79 Extreme 11
3 x Nvidia Geforce GTX Titan
32Gb Corsair Memory(not decided yet)
4x 240Gb SSD Storage

I plan on watercooling the GPUs, CPU, Memory and large parts of the board. I have seen a thread on here, where someone made a waterblock for the mainboard i plan to use.
I already contacted that person in hopes to get the cad plans.

I want to build a complete custom case starting with a large base plate and then mounting everything on that. Finally incase the whole thing with transparent plastic.

I rendered some pictures of what i am planning, however I have been told i should run only one watercooling loop(local computer store said so), but I don't know, if that is enough cooling power.




I hope you guys can give me some advice on what i should do and where i can get some decent drawings to base the mountings off.
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Wow dude, that is a pretty epic endeavour. Usually I would echo the computer store's opinion of one loop, but seeing as you want 3 GPUs and the mainboard under water, perhaps multiple loops would suit your purpose better. Maybe the 3 GPUs on one loop and the mainboard/CPU on another loop. I can't see 3 separate loops providing much benefit, to be honest.

You're going to need quite a bit of radiator surface area to cool all of that, I would be looking at about 6 or even 8 x120, perhaps 2x 360 or 480 rads. What kind of case are you going to fit all this gear in? That will dictate how many radiators you can use.
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I plan to build the case myself. I have access to a CNC machine and know my around at least a basic CAD program.
I already found specs for the mainboard mounting, albeit only the board screws, still no idea about the position of the expansion slots for the GPUs. Still need to find a couple drawings, but i start to think i will have to order the hardware and then measure myself.

As you can see in the picture its all mounted on a base plate and everything else will be build on that, then encase it in transparent plastic.
Something like this, just bigger
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you could go with one loop, but I would have multiple pumps to ensure the flow is good at all times. i don't think will gain much temps with two loops (or three)if you put the gpus after the rest of the blocks. you will have to get a lot of rad no matter what you decide, but you will have less tubing and less res(s) to deal with in one loop. you pic above that you have diagramed looks to have three loops. it looks cool and if you have the room(looks like you will if building custom), why not. one loop for the cpu, one for the gpu's, and one for the M/B. if you do decide to do multiple loops, just keep the tube length down to a minimum as it can start to look like a spider web it you don't plan the routes right. also, stp buy the Scratch Build Case Club for ideas and to bounce ideas if needed. good luck and i hope to see a build log as this sounds like it is going to be a monster (or Monsta). thumb.gif
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This is what i came up with just now. I think three loops will be necessary simply because i want to cool not only the chipset, but also the cpu power connectors and the Memory.

The gray boxes are pumps and i think one large reservoir should ensure enough water pressure before the pump, might even move that higher up.

I decided i will buy the hardware first and then build the case; Still got a couple question on the hardware tho:

1. How do i watercool memory blocks?
2. What kind of radiator should i get(material; brand) ?
3. What pumps should i get?
4. Should i buy the Titans and install the waterblocks or should i get Titans with a preinstalled waterblock?
5. What type of SSD drives should i get?


Edited by Tampa - 4/4/13 at 7:45pm
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If you are getting the Dominator RAM (GT or Platinum, although I can't recommend the stuff, it's the only RAM that has "ready-fit" blocks), you simply replace the finned top area with the water blocks. MIPS, Bitspower, Corsair, and EK all make blocks. I'd go with MIPS or BP, personally.

Radiators, either go with Alphacool UT60's or Monsta's, in 420, 480, or 560mm sizes (3x140, 4x120, or 4x140), or GO BIG OR GO HOME and get a pair of UT60 420's for the non GPU loops, and a Phobya G-Changer 1080 External Radiator (360x360x60mm), 8x Silverstone AP182 180x180x32mm fans (up to 6.7mmH2O + 170CFM) for push pull and some 20mm thick shrouds, for the GPU loop biggrin.gif

I would say that the Swiftech MCP35X or MCP35X2 pumps are the best IMHO, although others like the D5's. I just think that getting a pump with more pressure (thus overcoming restriction far better), an "aftermarket" top built-in (there isn't a better top than what it comes with), and PWM control all for $85 is a better deal than spending the same for a D5 but then having to spend $50-130 on a mod kit + top + whatnot... The only thing I'd say is a "necessary buy" for the MCP35X(2) is/are the Heatsinks, as the DDC pumps are air-cooled while the D5's are water-cooled (thus the D5's introduce some extra heat to the loop, while the DDC's rely on airflow to cool them).

Don't buy pre-installed, instead, wait for the Aquacomputer Kryographics blocks! They are utterly beautiful, jaw-droppingly so, and you know you're getting an absolute premium product! IMO, Watercool (Heatkiller) and Aquacomputer are far and away the best block makers for GPU's, and while they may cost a bit more, they are very much worth it!!! I'd suggest avoiding EK, especially after having lost 2 7970 Lightnings to EK blocks that were never Quality Control checked and had small but lethal manufacturing defects (oh, and of course, EK ignored every single email). I was willing to give them a chance, but they BLEW IT AGAIN!

I LOVE my Samsung 830's, but as for what to get now... I'd say either the 840 Pro 256GB's, Plextor M5P Xtreme's, or...well, that's about all I'd get! Intel are good, very reliable, but showing their age.


Also, if I may make a suggestion... The Rampage IV Extreme really would be a much better board for your setup, as those I know with the Extreme11 have had nothing but problems... 2 out of 3 RAID controllers are dead, one only has 4 working DIMM's, etc... They just don't feel like finished products. ALSO, the Rampage IV Extreme doesn't use a PLX chip, so you don't suffer the additional latency when running SLI, which will be noticeable with 4 cards. Add in the multiple choices for water blocks, the generous spacing around the CPU socket, and the COUNTLESS overclocking features, and you have what will be the legendary X79 board!


I wish you the best of luck with your build, and I am subscribed because this looks like it will be truly awesome!
   
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This is what i came up with just now. I think three loops will be necessary simply because i want to cool not only the chipset, but also the cpu power connectors and the Memory.

The gray boxes are pumps and i think one large reservoir should ensure enough water pressure before the pump, might even move that higher up.

I decided i will buy the hardware first and then build the case; Still got a couple question on the hardware tho:

1. How do i watercool memory blocks?
2. What kind of radiator should i get(material; brand) ?
3. What pumps should i get?
4. Should i buy the Titans and install the waterblocks or should i get Titans with a preinstalled waterblock?
5. What type of SSD drives should i get?

You could probably get away with only doing two loops. CPU, mobo, and RAM on one loop and GPUs on the other.

1. There are waterblocks made specifically for Corsair Dominator Ram. The heatspreaders along the top just unscrew then you screw the waterblock on the same spot. There are also a few Universal Ram cools, but most, if not all, require you to remove the stock heatsink and mount an aftermarket one that attaches to the waterblock.

2. If you want to go real crazy, go for Alphacool 480 Monstas. If not, the alphacool ut60 is probably the next best thing. And I'd go with Gentle Typhoons for the fans. If you want to save some money, Coolermaster R4's are good fans too. You'll probably want a fan controller too.

3. I really like my mcp655 vario and would recommend it to anyone. If you do multiple loops, one for each loop should be enough. If you do one big loop, I'd go with at least 2. The mcp35x is also a really good pump that has PWM.

4. That is more of a preference thing. I think any waterblock you buy and install yourself will look a lot better than the one that comes preinstalled. It would probably get better temperatures too.

5. Not really sure on this one, but Samsung 830 seems to be really popular right now
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Thanks for the tons of input. Really usefull!

I am certain I will use the Extreme 11 simply because it has the necessary PCIe Lanes to fully milk the GPUs. I know Asrock is not the best company to buy from, but if they **** it up ill just send it in.
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ASrock has really stepped up their game. I've been looking at a few of their boards for whenever I upgrade
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Got the back panel and expansion slots almost done, still trying to measure on my current rig, if it wasnt for the pesky cables everywhere.

Also need to make a plate for the PSU to bolt on. Still not sure about the loop setup, but ill just have to fiddle with that when i get some parts.

I think i got my parts list final now, correct me where i am wrong tho:

Asrock X79 Extreme 11

Intel i7 3970X

4x EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Superclocked

2x Corsair XMS3 Dominator Platinum 16GB Kit DDR3 PC3-22400

2x EVGA SuperNOVA NEX1500 Classified Power Supply

6x Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB Basic 750GB + 750GB Mirror

4x Toshiba SATA III 3TB (DT01ACA300)

24x Noctua NF-F12 PWM

3x Hardware Labs Black Ice GT Xtreme 480

6x Laing D5-Vario

2x Aqua-Computer ramplex copper edition RAM-Kühler G1/4

XSPC Titan Waterblock and Backplate

XSPC Raystorm Copper

3x Lian Li 5,25 (PT-FN04) Tho i don't really know what type of controller i should get

2x LG BH08LS20

XSPC Piping and hoses



How does this look?


Edited by Tampa - 4/5/13 at 6:30pm
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