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Thanks Obama!
    
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post #23 of 35
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Originally Posted by DigiOC View Post

While I do agree you offer a valid point, the Internet, GPS, Speech translation, Stealth planes, etc. are all a result of said system.

True, like I said, there are certainly benefits to it, as it puts the focus on one task and gets it done; but one has to ask, is it not likely that some (or all) of these inventions not come to pass independently, and what other research has now been put aside for the pursuit of the "big science" objective? As research becomes increasingly corporatized even in academia, PIs are becoming more and more "follow the money", and by necessity.

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And yet, I work in a Biochemistry Lab at a University which recently got a 300k grant from NIH. The Professor I work for is pursuing science for science sake, they gave him the grant because they were interested by his preliminary findings. So in this case it is promoting independent and free-thinking research.

Is this related to this initiative? It's not like all independent research will suddenly cease, just that some manpower, money, and mindpower will be diverted. In fact, it's likely your PI received this grant because of some other existing fund or specific initiative as opposed to a general funding grant. In a likelihood, while he may be pursuing science for science's sake, by coincidence, it aligns with some interest group up at NIH.

99% of the time, what happened to your PI will not be the case. NIH doesn't just hand out money for something they think is cool, unless it's part of some greater objective. It's likely in fact that if your PI is on to something that competes with or can augment an NIH group, they may try to coerce him to joining them; many NIH grants come with contingency clauses that require collaboration or assimilation into NIH to receive the money.
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No it is not directly linked to this initiative. I was responding to your statement of Big Research Focus is not always beneficial. I believe you were begrudging The grant system or Big Research focus which pushes researchers towards certain projects or Goals in order to get funding, as opposed to just following the science wherever it leads you. I was merely giving an example where that was not the case.
 
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Still sucks. Chances of getting grants from nsf, nih is less than 20 % now?
In Australia its 40+% rate.
US is going downhill with the way they handle science
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Obama can blow money on this, but he can't pay for military personal's college tuition? What a joke.
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Obama can blow money on this, but he can't pay for military personal's college tuition? What a joke.

... The heck are you talking about? The goverment DOES pay for military personell to go to college! Its called the GI bill and 2 of my close friends are going to college on it right now.
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Obama can blow money on this, but he can't pay for military personal's college tuition? What a joke.

1. Research is useful
2. What implies servicemen and women aren't getting compensated for schooling? Are you just pulling facts out of your rear end?
    
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