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That is one part yes, extracting heat from a ever decreasing die size is becoming a problem but have you seen some of the delided temps?
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Yep, never buy first batch.

Says who? My first batch Sandy was fine, My first batch ivy was fine and my first batch haswell will also be fine. Why should we wait for later batch's? Because it'll run alittle cooler or eat less power? Waste of time
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From what I have seen sometimes the first batch are the best clockers.
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From what I have seen sometimes the first batch are the best clockers.
Conroe was, Wolfdale wasn't.
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Conroe was, Wolfdale wasn't.

I dont believe ive ever seen a slow wolfdale. My E8500 was godly
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Says who? My first batch Sandy was fine, My first batch ivy was fine and my first batch haswell will also be fine. Why should we wait for later batch's? Because it'll run alittle cooler or eat less power? Waste of time
o rly? i didnt know you could look in the future and be sure that your haswell i7 from the first batch is going to be good.
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I dont believe ive ever seen a slow wolfdale. My E8500 was godly

if you got the E0 stepping... the C0 stepping for the core 2's were terrible and many could not reach 4ghz. same with the first generation core i7's. C0 was the first revision and very few of them could do 4ghz 24/7...then D0 came out and all of them could do 4ghz.. buying the first batch is bad because the early steppings are always going to be the worst overclockers
 
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o rly? i didnt know you could look in the future and be sure that your haswell i7 from the first batch is going to be good.
if you got the E0 stepping... the C0 stepping for the core 2's were terrible and many could not reach 4ghz. same with the first generation core i7's. C0 was the first revision..then D0 came out and all of them could do 4ghz. SB-E's C2 vs C3 was the difference between being able to do 5ghz and only being able to do 4.5ghz. buying the first batch is bad because the early steppings are always going to be the worst overclockers

C0 920's could do 4Ghz. Batches back then were all over the place. My day 1 release 920 did 4.2Ghz at 1.3xx. I cant remember the exact voltage but it wasnt too terribly high. The problem back then was good X58 boards that didnt cost a fortune. Not mine but the C0 wasnt that bad

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C0 920's could do 4Ghz. Batches back then were all over the place. My day 1 release 920 did 4.2Ghz at 1.3xx. I cant remember the exact voltage but it wasnt too terribly high. The problem back then was good X58 boards that didnt cost a fortune. Not mine but the C0 wasnt that bad

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Emm...

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