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post #21 of 46
My case wasn't wide enough and my gskill ripjaws X aren't that short either but I mounted the right fan on the side of right most stick of ram, providing that you have only two sticks and the rightmost ram slot is empty you may be able to achieve something like this. It isn't stressing the ram and it seems to work fine. However I'd make sure the heatsink itself fits inside the case before purchasing. The fans stick out of the heatsink by a good 1.5 inch or maybe 2 depending on the height of ram's heatspreaders.

My right fan was sticking out 2 inches (maybe a little less but..) and this is with Ripjaws X which aren't considered as having tall heatspreaders.

Also each case it's different, even if the case is wide, it may have more space behind the motherboard(where you hide the cables) as in my case, and there may be slightly less wide cases that do not have much space behind the case.

After I placed the right fan on the side of the right stick of ram the fan doesn't stick out of the heatsink.

You can also mount the fans as intake from the back pulling air from the rear fan, but i wouldn't do that, it's terrible, it disrupts the airflow of the case.
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Edited by windowszp - 4/4/13 at 5:16am
post #22 of 46
I'm confused.

Ripjaws X are supposed to be 40mm plus 3mm for RAM slot. Most coolers have about 40mm fin to mobo clearance plus approx. 8mm CPU socket; so 43mm RAM should fit under 48mm. Cooler is 160mm tall + 8mm = 168mm. Your Ripjaws X 43mm + fan's 140mm = 183mm. 183mm - 168mm = 18mm above cooler.

I have 25.5mm Crucial Ballistix Sport under my fan and fan is only 5mm above top of cooler.

So my RAM is 14.5mm shorter than yours. Add the 5mm my fans stick up above mobo and we have 19.5mm...

18 - 19.5mm is 3/4".. less than half of what you are saying.
post #23 of 46
Oops, when I was uploading this pic (as proof) I remembered that the fan wasn't sitting on top of the ram there was still space in there, so your absolutely right.

This pic was taken 2 days ago on a different case (switch 810) and those were estimations really.
post #24 of 46
If you are posting estimates please say so first. What you posted gives no indication of you just guessing what it might be.

Your pic looks like about 3/4". thumb.gif

FYI: If you find you are getting hotter temps than wanted you can use Thermalright TY-143 fans (2500rpm) £8.40 $16.95-17.99
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/140mm-thermalright-ty-143-600-2500-rpm-314-130-cfm-21-45-db-case-fan
http://www.nansgaminggear.net/SearchResults.asp?Search=ty-143&Submit=
http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-TY-143-High-speed-bearing/dp/B009QGHQ1K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1365078416&sr=1-1&keywords=ty-143

or Scythe Kaze Maru 2 Slip Stream $12.98
http://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Stream-140mm-120mm-Mount/dp/B0032A0QDQ

Both are very good fans. Which one is best for you probably depends on where you live
post #25 of 46
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No idea what you are on about. You seem to post sometimes without engaging your brain. rolleyes.gif I know you know better.

SA SB-E is in same league as TC14PE but CM V8 isn't even in the shadows. wink.gif

SA SB-E Extreme only exceeds TC14PE because of the TY-143 2500rpm fans vs Phanteks having 1200rpm fans. Get real; put TY-143 fans on TC14PE and it's right up with SA SB-E. :rolleyes I know. I have both and have ran both with TY-143s.thumb.gif

As for CM V8 GTS isn't even in the same league in looks or performance. It's looks belong in a car not a computer. rolleyes.gif Performance isn't even close.

and why only say phanteks if also TR SA does it! without adding NH D14... rolleyes.gif

there isnt a single review of V8 GTS, so you cant affirm that!

now who doesnt use the brain before posting this? wink.gif
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

If TC14PE won't do it than no air cooler will. thumb.gif

Edited by PontiacGTX - 4/4/13 at 6:55am
post #26 of 46
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

and why only say phanteks if also TR SA does it! without adding NH D14... rolleyes.gif
Because you singled out the Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme.
Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme is not same cooler as TR SA.. which is the old Silver Arrow.. nos SB-E designation SA is 4x 8mm pipe cooler and SA SB-E is 8x 6mm pipe cooler.
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

there isnt a single review of V8 GTS, so you cant affirm that!

now who doesnt use the brain before posting this? wink.gif
So you can post it with SA SB-E leading people to think it's as good.. with no reviews to support you,
but I can't say it's not as good because there are no reviews.??rolleyes.gif

V8 GTS looks looks very much like the V8 with a "vapor chamber" added on bottom so no reason to believe it will be much different cooling the V8. Looks to be same amount of heat pipes into same amount of fin area.. meaning should cool about the same.

If TC14PE won't do it than no air cooler will.[/QUOTE]
Is saying that: if TC14PE can't cool the SA SB-E, SA, D14, K2, HE01, etc. can't cool it either....
Or: Anything the TC14PE can cool a SA SB-E, SA, D14, K2, HE01, etc. can cool too.
All are within a couple degrees of each other using same fans.
post #27 of 46
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Because you singled out the Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme.
Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme is not same cooler as TR SA.. which is the old Silver Arrow.. nos SB-E designation SA is 4x 8mm pipe cooler and SA SB-E is 8x 6mm pipe cooler.
So you can post it with SA SB-E leading people to think it's as good.. with no reviews to support you,
but I can't say it's not as good because there are no reviews.??rolleyes.gif

V8 GTS looks looks very much like the V8 with a "vapor chamber" added on bottom so no reason to believe it will be much different cooling the V8. Looks to be same amount of heat pipes into same amount of fin area.. meaning should cool about the same.

If TC14PE won't do it than no air cooler will.}
Is saying that: if TC14PE can't cool the SA SB-E, SA, D14, K2, HE01, etc. can't cool it either....
Or: Anything the TC14PE can cool a SA SB-E, SA, D14, K2, HE01, etc. can cool too.
All are within a couple degrees of each other using same fans.


V8 GTS has 2 fans instead of 1 and they are good quality compared to older and 3 towers instead of 4 heatsinks from original model, it doesnt includes vapor chamber..at least arent placed vertically




btw.... Noctua stock fans arent good... so you can apply extra performance theory on TR SA SB E and also bad quality fans on nh d14..

Quote:
Cooler 1: Noctua NH-U12P (NF-P12 fans, push-pull)
Cooler 2: Noctua NH-D14 (NF-P12 front, NF-P14 middle)
Cooler 3: Noctua NH-D14 (PH-F140 front, PH-F140 middle)
Cooler 4: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_OR (PH-F140 front, PH-F140 middle)
Cooler 5: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_OR (NF-P12 front, NF-P14 middle



The ambient temperature was kept at a steady 25.5 degrees Celsius

Read more: http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000209/Phanteks-PH-TC14PE-CPU-Cooler-Review/6#ixzz2PW3pUgSL

Edited by PontiacGTX - 4/4/13 at 3:51pm
post #28 of 46
We will have to wait for some good reviews before we will know.

NH-D14 is a darn good cooler. And the fact it's years old makes it all the better.
post #29 of 46
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We will have to wait for some good reviews before we will know.

NH-D14 is a darn good cooler. And the fact it's years old makes it all the better.

what makes me think why Heligon HE01 si much better LOL

review
post #30 of 46
Takes more than one review to convince me what cooler is where in the pile. Too many variable are usually left undefined.

Same reviewers show H100i 7.8c better than SA SB-E Extreme.

Reason was H100 had case separating of intake from exhaust but SA SB-E Extreme was trapped in case inside case in-taking and exhausting.. and of course they don't monitor cooler intake temp. They monitor room ambient.

In fair testing SA SB-E 42c to H100 41c
H100 41c to SA SB-E Extreme 34c
SA SB-E Extreme is 7.0c cooler than H100, but Vortez show H100 being 1.5c cooler than SA SB-E Extreme wink.gif

i7 3820 @4.75GHz
Temperature is delta.

H100 . . . . . . . . 41c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 55dBA 2
SA SB-E . . . . . . 42c 1100rpm & 1300rpm 38dBA TY-150 & TY-141
SA SB-E Extreme 34c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 56dBA 2x TY-143

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xrsuPwDbo
jump in to 3:40 for results

So if air coolers are in cases where the hot exhaust leave case as it should instead of mixing with air and raising the cooler intake temp none of the CLC coolers would be better than top air coolers. wink.gif

My own case cools almost as good as my bench does. Cooler intake air temp is maybe 1-2c warmer than room. smile.gif
Edited by doyll - 4/4/13 at 11:12am
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