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Originally Posted by Eagle1337 View Post

Not really how that's an ouch.. It makes sense to go to either a powerful chip, or one of equal power that uses less power.. Tegra 3 really isn't that special these days.

The surprise is that they didn't use Tegra4, probably because of power consumption or price.
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Originally Posted by zinfinion View Post

Snapdragon 600/800 is faster than Tegra 3.
Tegra 3/Nexus 7 was hampered by slow IO.
Nexus 7 successor will be out in June/July most likely, announced at I/O in May.
Tegra 4 devices wont hit the market until Q4 2013.

Nothing to see here, the best chip that is available for the launch window is Snapdragon.

Shield is expected sometime in Q2, and there are sources that claim T4 is shipping to manufactures in May.
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Originally Posted by kevinf View Post

+rep! thats insightful.. i think I have read of qualcomm and AMD in talks before... in particular they are both members of HSA.

Qualcomm bought AMD's hand held graphic division in 2009.

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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Oh Snapdragon wink.gif

Why is anyone surprised? There's no need for CUDA /PhysX on tablets.

And You can't get CUDA on Tegra until T5/Logan next year, this decision was probably based on Tegra 4 being too expensive/power hungry &Tegra 4i(Quad A9) not ready to ship and SnapDragon 600 being the best option in the Launch window.
Edited by sherlock - 4/3/13 at 8:27pm
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Really, Shield is expected sometime in Q4, and there are sources that claim T4 is shipping to manufactures in May.

While it's true that Tegra 4 is shipping in (probably mid to late) Q2 2013, it still takes more than a few months to build a device around it (Shield being the obvious exception). For everyone other than Nvidia, the S600 is already available (and on the market in the HTC One), so it's a bit of a no brainer go to chip right now, especially for devices launching late Q2/early Q3. Odds are Google will have working Nexus 7 2.0 devices at I/O, and that's hard to do without the SoC. Presuming there are some late Q3 or Q4 tablets, that's where Tegra 4 might pop up.
Edited by zinfinion - 4/3/13 at 8:46pm
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post #23 of 57
Funny. Right after Nvidia's mobile GPU's will be faster than current consoles article.
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post #24 of 57
Couching it as "shunning" is the issue. If you go to the convenience store and they are out of Coke and you end up buying Pepsi, are you suddenly shunning Coke? Tegra 4 won't be ready on time, so Snapdragon 600 it is. Simple as it gets. rolleyes.gif
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post #25 of 57
Besides Tegra 3 was never really that great. Poor battery life and for the amount of cores the performance was laughable. The drivers are apparently harder for the Tegra as well and lets face it; ASUS and google don't dedicate a lot of their time to drivers. As previously mentioned in this thread the I/O performance of Tegra 3 was horrid often facing slowdowns on a quad core chip. Snapdragon's octo core has relatively the same TDP as well as theoretically doubling performance of the S4 pro while having a better instruction set, great I/O performance, is cheaper/faster than the the similar Tegra 3. The choice is clear. Sticking with ASUS is also a great decision in my opinion as they are one of the most mature manufacturers and really work closely with google on how they want their tablets. Their own tablets are some of the best android experiences as well as having a solid build quality and great performance. I'm not an AMD fanboy nor am I an Nvidia hater, but to me they just simply don't offer something that google couldn't say no to. And in the end that is what separate's the successful companies from the large companies.
post #26 of 57
In the mobile space the Nexus is a really big tablet and Nvidia losing out on it isn't really a good way to start off the launch of their new processor. Tegra 3 became a big hit as it was affordable and fast enough to be competent in low end tablets and mid-range tablets and overclocked for high end ones, i'm surprised they strayed away from that winning formula with Tegra 4. Anyways i just hope we start seeing 1080p screens in these small 7 inch tablets and 1440p+ screens in the larger 10 inch versions. I made the mistake of buying a 10" tablet with a 1280x800 resolution and the PPi makes browsing the web on it a pain constantly needing to zoom in,movies are great on it and so are the apps but web browsing and reading content is lacking.
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Besides Tegra 3 was never really that great. Poor battery life and for the amount of cores the performance was laughable. The drivers are apparently harder for the Tegra as well and lets face it; ASUS and google don't dedicate a lot of their time to drivers. As previously mentioned in this thread the I/O performance of Tegra 3 was horrid often facing slowdowns on a quad core chip. Snapdragon's octo core has relatively the same TDP as well as theoretically doubling performance of the S4 pro while having a better instruction set, great I/O performance, is cheaper/faster than the the similar Tegra 3. The choice is clear. Sticking with ASUS is also a great decision in my opinion as they are one of the most mature manufacturers and really work closely with google on how they want their tablets. Their own tablets are some of the best android experiences as well as having a solid build quality and great performance. I'm not an AMD fanboy nor am I an Nvidia hater, but to me they just simply don't offer something that google couldn't say no to. And in the end that is what separate's the successful companies from the large companies.

My TF300 has a pretty terrible screen. The screen uniformity is way off, one side is significantly brighter than the other and this effects the color accuracy as well. I went to the store and tried out the TF700 and the uniformity was very good so i'm not sure if i got a lemon or if its an issue with their lower end tablets...
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Que Nvidia saying they didn't really want to provide chips for the Nexus 7 and that it allows them to invest their resources in other projects...
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Que Nvidia saying they didn't really want to provide chips for the Nexus 7 and that it allows them to invest their resources in other projects...
then shortly after compare their Tegra 4 against it tongue.gif
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post #29 of 57
Alright, that's enough with the name calling. I don't know how many times I have had to repeat myself but I am confident that if I had every dime for the number of times I have said, to stop with the immature fanboyism and name calling(mainly,zealots,fanboys, "pro-amd", pro-nvidia), I would have enough money to buy a decent rig.

Please put an end to this.
post #30 of 57
Better performance, better battery life, and non extremely closed, untouchable drivers/kernels?

This is good news!

Assuming they switch to a Krait based SoC, and not a Scorpion one.
   
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