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I only got the ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 because I was going to use it a file server. No other AM3 motherboard under $100
had 8 SATA ports. 970 Extreme3 has a big following. Seems like a good budget overclocker. The only other person on ocn.net
that has the 970DE broke the back usb connectors while connecting a flash drive late at night. I can believe it because
the pcb is that thin. I have noticed some people having their ASRock board suddenly die on them on the forums. But
with how popular the 970 Extreme3 is a few board suddenly dying especially if mixed with cheap power supplies or overclocked
heavily.

965BE is a nice processor. It should overclock well with a 970 Extreme3. Going with the Extreme3 would add a little to resale
value. A proven combination. Lots of people running it.

I don't think going with the 970DE3 was wrong. good enough board. The 970 Extreme3 is normally on sale for $85. Around
the $70 price range you get mATX AM3+ boards or OEM like ATX boards. 970DE3 has a lot of features for the price.
not native due to the 770 chipset - kind dislike that they named it 970DE3. I didn't try overclocking because my x2 550 unlocked
is 140W.

Other option would be refurbished boards but I wouldn't recommend it.




appreciate the rep. thanks you very much. but I really want to know about the Gigabyte RMA issue.
Reading all the horror stories about Asus RMA department did make me avoid them for a long time.
The only motherboard maker that didn't have a horrible customer service department, in my option, was
Abit. They even supported out of warranty motherboards affected by the bad capacitors that everybody was using.
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appreciate the rep. thanks you very much. but I really want to know about the Gigabyte RMA issue.
Reading all the horror stories about Asus RMA department did make me avoid them for a long time.
The only motherboard maker that didn't have a horrible customer service department, in my option, was
Abit. They even supported out of warranty motherboards affected by the bad capacitors that everybody was using.

+1 for sending rep his way thumb.gif

I would to hear about the Gigabyte problems as well, Gigabyte has been my solid choice for Intel builds for a long time and I fear having to go through bad RMA service.
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I'll try to be brief about Gigayte and their "shell game". I bought into their 2 oz. of Cu and solid build advertising so I purchased both the UD3 and UD5 boards.

And both of these boards were defective out of the box. So I RMA'd them. Before doing so, I marked the boards in a place where GB techs would probably not notice.

Well, different boards came back to me as "repaired". I was told by Gigabyte that I had shorted them out but that GB had repaired them for me. Yes, they were indeed shorted out. You could see the shoddy repair job on the back of the board. BUT, they were NOT my boards!

As my Dad used to say, "if you're gonna tell me a lie, at least tell me a good one".

Facts:

1) Gigabyte sent me different burned-out boards that they claimed were mine and had been repaired.

2) I always use vinyl gloves and static straps when working inside the case

3) I have built hundreds of computers

4) Many other GB customers have had similar experiences to mine. Indeed, there are many laments on the OCN GB threads, mine included.

5) Gigabyte boards were probably very good boards, when they were fabricated in Taiwan. They are now fabricated in China. I have worked with the Chinese for about 30 years. Let me just say this: Mainland China is completely different from Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. Chinese. In fact, in Hong Kong it is illegal to sell any foodstuffs from China - in supermarkets or restaurants. The Hong Kong Chinese don't like melamine in their dairy products. rolleyes.gif

Note: I lived in China where I was a university instructor. Just briefly, I have seen nicely packaged dead batteries for sale and my girl, while walking down the street in ShenYang purchased a bag of peanuts from a street vendor. There were no peanuts. They shells had just been put back together.

At my university (#2 in computer science in China) foreign instructors were not paid. "You're an American in China. What are you going to do about it?" was their rebuttal when I asked them why they refused to pay us. Ah, but I got more ....

Before leaving China, without being paid, I purchased an absolutely beautiful suitcase in the Embassy district of Beijing. Lots of tourists shop there. Well, it made the first leg of the trip from Beijing to Hong Kong, where it broke open and spilled everything on the floor of the airport terminal. Fortunately, all my underwear was clean. biggrin.gif

5) Gigabyte boards don't even make good frisbies.

6) The Chinese are indeed capability of producing good quality. However, when left unsupervised, it's anything for a buck. In all fairness, other manufacturers suffer from variant quality as well, especially since they moved their factories to Mainland China. But my objection to Gigabyte is not just due to both my boards being DOA. No, it's the tricky games that Gigabyte plays when you RMA them that get me a little bit upset.
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