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Hey mate, I don't have anything to input to your questions really, but I wanted to ask you kindly if you can give me your personal opinions on that laptop. I am thinking about purchasing one, the exact same model except not with the 680m but with SLi GTX670MX's (Considering I don't think I will ever need that powerful of a card) I rarely play games haha but I do enjoy benchmarking(only on low-end stuff, its nice to see a GTX 670mx on GTX680m territory, which I have already done with my ASUS G75vx clocked at 1000mhz GPU core =] )

Well, anyways how do you like the design of that laptop? Is it tasteful? is the keyboard easy to type on and has good spacing between keys?


I purchase the ASUS G75VX from Best Buy and have to say the build quality of screen frame is garbage. With in the first half hour the front panel above the screen came apart, but it clip back on. Then after opening it a few times, the frame started bending in a V shape right down the center from the top (Half Way Down). The ASUS G75VX screen frame is extremely flimsy and will become warped over time. The one I had started warping in the first full day/next day. I could not stand it, so back to the store it went.
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I purchase the ASUS G75VX from Best Buy and have to say the build quality of screen frame is garbage. With in the first half hour the front panel above the screen came apart, but it clip back on. Then after opening it a few times, the frame started bending in a V shape right down the center from the top (Half Way Down). The ASUS G75VX screen frame is extremely flimsy and will become warped over time. The one I had started warping in the first full day/next day. I could not stand it, so back to the store it went.

My G75VX was the same way, until I sent it in for repairs_ Asus changed my screen and fixed the Bezel issue and it went away completely_ thumb.gif
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back to the OPs questions. could be something bad with the laptop. the only thing i game on these days is my laptops since i am always on the road. i never have graphical issues. check the TIM and make sure the fans are working good. use msi afterburner to check temps while in game or use kombuster to see if the cards are getting hot. SCII is heavy on the CPU so you might want to run P95 while using hwmonitor to see temps. if you have any questions you can PM me rather than listen to the trolls on here. NP9170 owner here.
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the thing with any laptop performance or not is that you could get a monday morning build or a friday afternoon build. Some laptops have a higher failure rate but very few are actual Garbage as their shell and chassis is sold to many and rebadged, the internal hardware is also standard across all ranges.

That said, Sager do tend to have their fair share of unhappy customers but they are no frills and all hardware so that extra bit of glue or better speakers, cooling paste goes a miss. Most if not all can be remedied.

You takes your pick you makes your choice.


BTW no such thing as a gaming laptop ... put the crack pipe away son.

Leaps in power efficiency with mobile technology and miniaturisation has pushed top end laptops GPU power off the scale. We have all been amazed by our Telephones / Tablets graphics and every year they stomp forward on just a few watts. Now factor in a laptop can use upto 300w PSU using that same efficiency and technology !
post #15 of 33
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BTW no such thing as a gaming laptop ... put the crack pipe away son.

so by your logic there is no such thing as a gaming desktop then either huh? they are all just computers but some with more gpu power? if you are saying that then fine, but dont say no laptop can game. i can play BF3 all day at 1080P with 30+ FPS on my laptop.
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so by your logic there is no such thing as a gaming desktop then either huh? they are all just computers but some with more gpu power? if you are saying that then fine, but dont say no laptop can game. i can play BF3 all day at 1080P with 30+ FPS on my laptop.

No by his logic, there is such thing as a gaming laptop.

It's called sarcasm, even I understood him perfectly fine. tongue.gif
     
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Hey mate, I don't have anything to input to your questions really, but I wanted to ask you kindly if you can give me your personal opinions on that laptop. I am thinking about purchasing one, the exact same model except not with the 680m but with SLi GTX670MX's (Considering I don't think I will ever need that powerful of a card) I rarely play games haha but I do enjoy benchmarking (only on low-end stuff, its nice to see a GTX 670mx on GTX680m territory, which I have already done with my ASUS G75vx clocked at 1000mhz GPU core =] )

Well, anyways how do you like the design of that laptop? Is it tasteful? is the keyboard easy to type on and has good spacing between keys?

I think this was to me. Not sure if this is pertinent to the conversation but pretty much the entire time I've had this laptop (early February) I've had the lid closed and two monitors hooked up from display port/hdmi. I have taken it to a couple of SC2-fests, that's pretty much the only time I use the actual screen (move down to 1080p, what is the stone ages?). Even when I use screen I still use a USB keyboard. Trying to keep it pristine for as long as possible.

Anyway the screen seems fantastic. The keys are little to close together for my taste and there isn't really a gap between the keys and the number pad. I assume I would get accustomed to touch typing on it eventually if I had to. The software to make the back lighting change colors is kind of neat if not gimmicky.

When the support guy at Xotic recommended monitoring the temps I downloaded GPU-z and MSI after burner and used both of them for sessions of SC2. Since there didn't seem to be any issues I haven't done it for a week or two but I believe the GPU never went above 45C or so. I'll monitor it again when I get home (a real excuse to play SC2...I should probably try another game too...).

I did run prime95 when I first got the laptop, in fact I let it go I thought too long and...well it was still running when I finally stopped it. I think it went for 18 hours or something like that. I could run it again and see if the numbers show anything.

On purchasing this particular Sager I think I should have sprung for that special thermal paste treatment they sell. Hate to say it's necessary but it would probably be much less of a headache right now. Of course I assume I could figure out how to apply my own paste. Maybe this is normal but the fans

Thanks for replying everybody, I really appreciate the help. I'll look at those temps again and see where they are.
 
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No by his logic, there is such thing as a gaming laptop.

It's called sarcasm, even I understood him perfectly fine. tongue.gif

and that is what i get for reading and posting while on the phone at work axesmiley.png
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I think this was to me. Not sure if this is pertinent to the conversation but pretty much the entire time I've had this laptop (early February) I've had the lid closed and two monitors hooked up from display port/hdmi. I have taken it to a couple of SC2-fests, that's pretty much the only time I use the actual screen (move down to 1080p, what is the stone ages?). Even when I use screen I still use a USB keyboard. Trying to keep it pristine for as long as possible.

Anyway the screen seems fantastic. The keys are little to close together for my taste and there isn't really a gap between the keys and the number pad. I assume I would get accustomed to touch typing on it eventually if I had to. The software to make the back lighting change colors is kind of neat if not gimmicky.

When the support guy at Xotic recommended monitoring the temps I downloaded GPU-z and MSI after burner and used both of them for sessions of SC2. Since there didn't seem to be any issues I haven't done it for a week or two but I believe the GPU never went above 45C or so. I'll monitor it again when I get home (a real excuse to play SC2...I should probably try another game too...).

I did run prime95 when I first got the laptop, in fact I let it go I thought too long and...well it was still running when I finally stopped it. I think it went for 18 hours or something like that. I could run it again and see if the numbers show anything.

On purchasing this particular Sager I think I should have sprung for that special thermal paste treatment they sell. Hate to say it's necessary but it would probably be much less of a headache right now. Of course I assume I could figure out how to apply my own paste. Maybe this is normal but the fans

Thanks for replying everybody, I really appreciate the help. I'll look at those temps again and see where they are.

Thanks for giving me an insight on your opinion of the laptop_ +rep
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As for the purchase, good going. biggrin.gif I'm planning on grabbing the same model hopefully sometime in the future.
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Haha NOPE. Show me some stats that compare and I might try to believe it.

Alienware is garbage IMO...Now that owned by Dell it is basically overpriced OEM junk...kind of like their brand....

The only thing it has is mobility. Then again you can always make a gaming box/cube which makes a desktop pretty mobile.

Go reread the sentence again please. I never said anything about how it was faster than the desktop lineup, as that'd be simply dumb to even attempt claiming. I said it's better value for your dollar. You end up at a plateau eventually when it comes to desktops, you stop seeing reasonable scaling after two GPUs unless you have multiple monitors (the screen resolution you deal with on the laptop ends up being the reason for this, being only 1080p), the differences between the CPU choices you have aren't great enough to justify the means on the desktop line (The 3770k being all you'll ever need), and overclocking is overrated anyway. Good job, you got a CPU to 4.6GHz... and you only have one GPU... congrats. rolleyes.gif

But anyway, I've spent enough time attempting to speak with you. Time to go actually help people instead of slandering their purchases like you seem to enjoy doing. rolleyes.gif

You have a tone that is very condescending towards all who made a comment about it. You say I slander the purchase yet I simply said "I'd still rather game at home in a more comfortable of a spot.". Again I say. I didn't slander the purchase, I never even mentioned anything about the purchase. I bashed Aleinware yea, but you just bashed the whole OCing community here by saying OCing is overrated.

When I quoted your text. That is what I did, quote it. It never said anything about price or money .


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Oh yeah because, dual Titans scale so well at 1080p when compared to say, dual 680Ms. tongue.gif Really dude. It's a matter of "How many frames per second do you want?" by that point. The Titan is a joke. And I was stating that the price to performance ratio of a $3,500 laptop vastly outweighs that of a $3,500 desktop due to how rapidly the desktop market plateaus. You stop seeing legitimate performance increases after around $1,800 on desktops, whereas you continue gaining performance on the laptop market while remaining more mobile the entire time.

You do have a point, you see less performance increases...only because desktops are 100 times more scalable. They are 80% of the market. Laptops gain a bunch because at those prices only select companies even make such performance based laptops and that is why you see more performance gains with those prices.

You have some valid points on how gaming laptops are great for mobility and price compared to desktops. Yet you don't have to be so condescending to everyone and every time someone makes a comment about it. Again I say. I didn't slander the purchase, I never even mentioned anything about the purchase.
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