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Encryption used in Apple's iMessage chat service has stymied attempts by federal drug enforcement agents to eavesdrop on suspects' conversations, an internal government document reveals.
An internal Drug Enforcement Administration document seen by CNET discusses a February 2013 criminal investigation and warns that because of the use of encryption, "it is impossible to intercept iMessages between two Apple devices" even with a court order approved by a federal judge.

An internal Drug Enforcement Administration document seen by CNET discusses a February 2013 criminal investigation and warns that because of the use of encryption, "it is impossible to intercept iMessages between two Apple devices" even with a court order approved by a federal judge.
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Good. Keep going Apple.
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They will know where you are, who you are talking to, what are you saying and how long you stayed in each place and not being able to read i-messages is a problem....?

Ok then.
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I don't see the problem. Shouldn't everything be encrypted to that level?
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If Apple came up with the encryption algorithm: Rock on guys! Make an even stronger one. Keep up the good work.

If someone else came up with the algorithm and Apple licenses it: Rock on inventors! Keep up the good work. Good job for adopting this Apple.
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Who'd Apple buy for this?
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here comes the federal backdoor.
 
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This is what they want you to think... if it can be encrypted it can be decrypted... this just looks like another apple-paid-off document imo... even if they claim it is "internal" ...

Just like games get "leaked" and movie trailers "accidentally air early" ... it's more behind the scenes money pushing and marketing.


Not sure why it matters anyway- the law doesn't need to "intercept" messages... they can just confiscate your phone and computer... heck, your whole house and car if they think you're up to no good they'll surely find away.
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Originally Posted by j3st3r View Post

Did you not see the part about encryption being too strong for the DEA?

If you're going to come here trolling at least try to use your brain. I know its really hard to follow tutorials on XDA, but can't be that hard to read a simple news piece rofl.

Actually he is correct in saying that they will know that other data, as location data is stored by the service provider and will be turned over to authorities if they present a warrant, they can still listen in on your phone calls, and they can get the times you were at any location with your phone from the service provider as well. So the guy you are quoting was completely correct.
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