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Originally Posted by ez12a View Post

here comes the federal backdoor.
Right, because those actually exist and somehow your average security researcher hasn't found a way to exploit such a vulnerability yet.
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post #12 of 122
This feels strange to say, but:

Good. Don't back down. Same with blackberry a while back. Keep the stuff crazy encrypted. People want security; not big brother reading their texts.
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Someone will eventually find an "easy" way to decrypt the messages. I hope Apple are constantly working on it to prevent people from finding a way in.
    
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Give them time, they will find a way to break the encryption eventually. Besides the DEA, FBI or CIA aren't the organizations that would be working to break the encryption anyway, that job would fall the the NSA and the they are VERY good at this sort of thing.
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Give them time, they will find a way to break the encryption eventually. Besides the DEA, FBI or CIA aren't the organizations that would be working to break the encryption anyway, that job would fall the the NSA and the they are VERY good at this sort of thing.

For the average user, and person being tracked/prosecuted, the NSA isn't of much worry. Everything is a business, and resources and cost factor into everything. If some DA is going after some local drug dealer, they aren't going to get the NSA involved in order to break the Encryption.

Encryption is like a pad lock on a bike....

It doesn't need to be unbreakable, just stronger than the one on the bike next to yours.
    
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poor DEA
lol
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For the average user, and person being tracked/prosecuted, the NSA isn't of much worry. Everything is a business, and resources and cost factor into everything. If some DA is going after some local drug dealer, they aren't going to get the NSA involved in order to break the Encryption.

Encryption is like a pad lock on a bike....

It doesn't need to be unbreakable, just stronger than the one on the bike next to yours
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post #18 of 122
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Did you not see the part about encryption being too strong for the DEA?
He's right...

Virtually all encryption is too strong for the DEA.... that's the entire point of encryption.
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You CAN get through any encryption given enough processing power and time. But you will also waste a lot of resources doing it. I doubt this will protect end users much - if you're sought after enough by the FBI/CIA chances are you will get caught. I just think its cool that Apple really stepped up the security aspect of their phones. Unlike Android, which has malware all over the place.
That's like saying quantum tunnelling of a human being through a brick wall is possible with enough time. Sure, it's possible... but it's virtually impossible due to the power and time required.

That's also not true. There have been cases where FBI cannot unlock a password protected drive.

Android open source also allows more eyes to look at the code..... Apple has dropped the ball on user data quite a few times in the last few years.
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Apple's privacy policy authorizes the company to divulge customers' information about customers to law enforcement when "reasonably necessary or appropriate" or to "comply with legal process."

This only protects you from blackhats, not the government. Do you really think apple, a company that WANTS government contracts, will stand up for the joe schmoe who is suspected of being a criminal?
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Hmm it seems that Apple is finally heading to the right path. thumb.gif
     
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