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You know guys, it's kind of sad for people to use this as an opportunity to back their chosen tech company, when you realize right there the headline is basically saying "it's irresponsible to let consumers share private data."

Poor world...

according to the usfg. on the other hand, the usfg gets hacked all the time. not having backdoors for the usfg=more secure. so it's debatable, but definitely a plus for businesses especially that use these devices and that are that targets of industrial espionage
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Apple's privacy policy authorizes the company to divulge customers' information about customers to law enforcement when "reasonably necessary or appropriate" or to "comply with legal process."

This only protects you from blackhats, not the government. Do you really think apple, a company that WANTS government contracts, will stand up for the joe schmoe who is suspected of being a criminal?
Pretty sure iMessage is encrypted end to end, so they couldn't hand it over even if they wanted to.
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Apple's privacy policy authorizes the company to divulge customers' information about customers to law enforcement when "reasonably necessary or appropriate" or to "comply with legal process."
This only protects you from blackhats, not the government. Do you really think apple, a company that WANTS government contracts, will stand up for the joe schmoe who is suspected of being a criminal?

This guys hit it on the head anyway.

I'm not some conspiracy nut, but if you guys honestly don't think this means zilch, IDK what to say really. I mean seriously, what difference does it make if they cannot read a message?

As others have said, if they know everything but the actual contents of a message, its kind of irrelevant anyway. If the gov't is after you already, it's gonna get you, with or without encrypted iMessages.
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He's right...

Virtually all encryption is too strong for the DEA.... that's the entire point of encryption.
That's like saying quantum tunnelling of a human being through a brick wall is possible with enough time. Sure, it's possible... but it's virtually impossible due to the power and time required.

That's also not true. There have been cases where FBI cannot unlock a password protected drive.

Android open source also allows more eyes to look at the code..... Apple has dropped the ball on user data quite a few times in the last few years.
Is that a technical term? The Android Marketplace may have more malware... but I trust the open-souce OS more than a closed-source OS.

Yeah, I seem to remember several instances where the FBI and NSA worked on Hard drives for months and were never able to successfully break the encryption. If you have a volume that was encrypted by someone who knows what they're doing the only way you're getting in is to convince them to give you the key... Or invent a functional quantum computer.
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LOL NSA not being able to crack encryption? Sure. Echelon was a waste of money if so (I'm being sarcastic... the NSA can crack encryption very easily).
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This is what they want you to think... if it can be encrypted it can be decrypted... this just looks like another apple-paid-off document imo... even if they claim it is "internal" ...

Just like games get "leaked" and movie trailers "accidentally air early" ... it's more behind the scenes money pushing and marketing.


Not sure why it matters anyway- the law doesn't need to "intercept" messages... they can just confiscate your phone and computer... heck, your whole house and car if they think you're up to no good they'll surely find away.

This.
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Awesome

Skype does the same, also when talking

IM-X has 256 and 512 bit encryption, for paranoids like me smile.gif

Just say where and i'll link you programs that'll fit your specifik things and needs in 256 bit biggrin.gif
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LOL NSA not being able to crack encryption? Sure. Echelon was a waste of money if so (I'm being sarcastic... the NSA can crack encryption very easily).

Depends on the encryption and who set it up. But yes, there is encryption that is not feasible for even the NSA to crack.
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Yep I'm sure apple paid the DEA to complain about this...or wait
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