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I've played some Drm Only Single player games for Pc and when my internet went out, it refused to allow me to play it. Luckily, they don't do that for most Single player games on PC anymore, but those of you who have played those games that do that know how annoying it is.
post #52 of 60
This is the same rumour that was reported like a couple of weeks ago. Moving it to xbox since it's not really anything "new";just new sources backing up the initial rumours.
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You can play single player games offline via Steam.....please learn your facts.

What facts buddy? These are all rumors. ..

Can you play a game on Steam without having it activated? Do you need an internet connection to activate a game on Steam?
Right...

MS wants to stop the resale of used games. To do that, they will do what Steam or Origin does, tie the game to a console/account. After a game is activated, there is no reason why a game can't be played offline. This rumor that the game will stop if the internet connection is disconnected after 3 minutes is retarded.
    
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PC game publishers also have this option, and therefore by your logic, they all take advantage of it. Are you saying that every PC game requires an internet connection?

Many do (Many of which that do not on the current console versions), but nearly all of the AAA PC titles are also PS3 and Xbox 360 titles and the current consoles don't have this option available.Though I am sure they could. There must be something in the EULA or something that is making it so they can't. Perhaps it is just because they didn't have a disclaimer "Requires an Internet Connection for full functionality" on the box. It could also be that the infrastructure isn't there, but they will build it a piece at a time for the new games that come out.

And...if this ends up being not a unfounded rumor...if the Next Xbox does require it what do you think the cross platform versions of the same games on the PS4 and PC will require?
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I just find it funny that so many people on a website, whose favorite PC games require a GPU that costs what half a year of internet service or more would cost just to run at 30fps, have a problem with this. I also find it funny how I wrote that horrible attempt at a sentence up there. I really need to take some grammar classes lol.

Regardless I thought the 360 was head and shoulders above the PS3, wasn't even close imo. However I was very impressed with the PS4 announcement and it actually got me excited for it. I still want to see what the next Xbox has to offer, the always on internet requirement will not affect my choice in the least bit.

I don't think it will change many peoples' opinions of it. The only people it will bother are those with spotty Internet. Though the Internet just needs to be working to start the games according to this rumor. It will really trouble the people that can't have Internet in their area...though I bet dial up would even be enough to get your game going and do any updates. Plus the people that want to take their console in a camper or something. However, all these users might represent 10% of their customer base. They would easily get far more back in return from no second hand game sales then this small group could ever dream of spending so I am sure they don't care if they alienate them
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/5/13 at 10:50am
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Many do (Many of which that do not on the current console versions), but nearly all of the AAA PC titles are also PS3 and Xbox 360 titles and the current consoles don't have this option available.Though I am sure they could. There must be something in the EULA or something that is making it so they can't. Perhaps it is just because they didn't have a disclaimer "Requires an Internet Connection for full functionality" on the box. It could also be that the infrastructure isn't there, but they will build it a piece at a time for the new games that come out.

And...if this ends up being not a unfounded rumor...if the Next Xbox does require it what do you think the cross platform versions of the same games on the PS4 and PC will require?
I don't think it will change many peoples' opinions of it. The only people it will bother are those with spotty Internet. Though the Internet just needs to be working to start the games according to this rumor. It will really trouble the people that can't have Internet in their area...though I bet dial up would even be enough to get your game going and do any updates. Plus the people that want to take their console in a camper or something. However, all these users might represent 10% of their customer base. They would easily get far more back in return from no second hand game sales then this small group could ever dream of spending so I am sure they don't care if they alienate them

The thing about it is they would be alienating the users who don't have internet/good internet, and users that rely on second-hand games to be able to play. I would wager that this is more than 10% of their userbase. There are many articles (I can't seem to find any very recent ones, but late 2010/2011 isn't too long ago) that show that up to half the gamers with 360's don't even pay for LIVE. So instead of 10%, they could potentially be forcing an ultimatum on nearly half of their console base. I wouldn't consider it a ballsy/risky move at that point, I'd consider it suicide.
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The thing about it is they would be alienating the users who don't have internet/good internet, and users that rely on second-hand games to be able to play. I would wager that this is more than 10% of their userbase. There are many articles (I can't seem to find any very recent ones, but late 2010/2011 isn't too long ago) that show that up to half the gamers with 360's don't even pay for LIVE. So instead of 10%, they could potentially be forcing an ultimatum on nearly half of their console base. I wouldn't consider it a ballsy/risky move at that point, I'd consider it suicide.

I don't think they would be much worried about those with bad Internet...just because they didn't pay for Xbox live doesn't mean they don't have Internet. They would have to give Xbox live away for free...well, they wouldn't have to, but it would probably tank sales if they didn't. Plus, all the Xboxes and games sold in a couple major US cities probably out classes all the sales in more rural areas all put together that don't have good Internet access. I highly doubt there are many people in major cities who buy Xboxes and don't have a decent Internet connection...or at least decent enough for the Xbox to work most of the time. Even if they are pulling in a bar or two of some cafe's guest wifi.

The second hand sales are a different matter. I know the publishers hate them with a passion, but they are going to have to allow them at some level. Newly released second hand games need to go. If some one can afford to pay $50 for a second hand game they can afford to pay $60 for a fresh copy. That is just stupid that they aren't supporting the publishers and Developers to save just a few dollars. However, if I go digging through a bin or browse ebay for used games that are six months or more old and are priced at $20 or less...the publisher is probably not losing a sale, because I would not have bought the game had it not been cheap. However, just stopping the new second hand games will probably more than make up for any of their new draconian rules that are alienating some customers.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/5/13 at 12:35pm
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Microsoft hates Poor people that don't have good internet connection or can't afford internet connection monthly. Fits perfectly for a Liberal company such as Microsoft because they're big Dixiecrat supporters. Tried to keep Politics out of gaming, but Microsoft are the Nazi's bringing it into gaming.
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Why are they trying to ruin gaming? It's saddening that creating/publishing/developing a game is just viewed as a cash cow nowadays, with few exceptions. Do something for the community for once, not self interest. doh.gif
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Nothing is set in stone yet... i'm going to laugh when MS announces the console and its not "Always On"
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I'm not certain, but I am pretty sure this rumor has been posted 10 times over.

I will end up buying both consoles, just because I can and love all types of gaming. I think it would be idiotic of Microsoft to do this. If they lose even 5% of their customers, they will be losing roughly $1.5 billion* over the life of the console.




*rough number based on total Xbox 360 sales to date.
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