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Hi,
This is my first custom build and I am frozen between two motherboards: The ASUS P8Z77-V and the Gigabyte GA Z77-UD3H.
>What are the main differences between the two?
>Which one offers the most features and is the best for future-proofing?
>Which offers the best overclocking support?
>Will a CX500 PSU suffice instead of the 600W?
Also, does the CPU Cooler I have selected fit with the ASUS Motherboard; Does it block the RAM modules when in place?

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The one major difference between the ASUS and Gigabyte motherboards is that the former has integrated WiFi functionality. Other than that, both boards perform pretty much the same and are equally "future-proof".

You can easily get away with the CX500 for this rig, as it won't consume much over 300w to begin with.

The Samsung RAM you selected will easily fit under the 37mm clearance that the Hyper 212 EVO provides.
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Thanks for that, In that case I may opt for the ASUS board since then I won't need the PCI WiFi Adapter for Wireless connections. What would you suggest for RAM under £50 ($76) that gives great performance and is quite low profile as well. I've heard that the Samsung RAM has great overclocking capabilities.
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Samsung wonder ram has good overclocking capabilities, I don't know if they're low profile or not.
For low profile you can go with something like this ( can't find it on RageDev, maybe you can ) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186
The Z77X-UD3H is cheaper than the Z77V-PRO, why not go for it? Unless you really need to have onboard wifi, the saved money can give you a boost in the GPU up to HD Radeon 7870 XT if you squeeze in a bit of extra cash ( £10 or something )
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-111992020g
The Corsair CX 500W should be fine but if you want to SLI/Crossfire you'd need a bigger PSU.
If budget is an issue I'd suggest dropping the CPU cooler for now then buy a good one down the road when you feel the need to really OC your CPU.
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I could stretch my budget to £800 (excluding monitor) for a better motherboard such as the Maximus V Gene or the Sabretooth Z77. Which are the best performing motherboards for under £200?
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Originally Posted by RagePro View Post

I could stretch my budget to £800 (excluding monitor) for a better motherboard such as the Maximus V Gene or the Sabretooth Z77. Which are the best performing motherboards for under £200?

For the price of the Sabretooth Z77 you can get the P8Z77-V Deluxe... I had to make the same choice and I chose the Z77-V Deluxe (as you can see in my sig rig) because these are the things the Z77-V Deluxe has over the Sabertooth:

More power phases, integrated wifi, integrated bluetooth, extra pci-e 1x slot, better onboard sound (Realtek® ALC898 vs ALC892), 2x more USB 3.0 ports, extra LAN port.

So you're just missing out on the 'thermal armor'. So thats why I went for the Z77-V Deluxe.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1378936/1000-performance-pc-review/0_20#post_19684220

There are links to 600$ and 800$ builds. Those are "most bang for the buck" setups.

An extreme board like Sabretooth Z77 is complete overkill!! No difference in gaming performance (fps). Go for mush cheaper board, as long as it's based on Z75 - Z77 then OC functions are available and you'll be able to OC a ex i5-3570K with-in 100 MHz of expensive boards like Sabretooth Z77. Over 160$ = extreme boards designed for extreme OC'ers, running cutting edge CPU's or engineering samples.

With EU's higher electronic prices the 800$ system is what you're looking for
Edited by Waszipa - 4/6/13 at 3:35am
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Assuming you're in the UK overclockers.co.uk (Click to show)

For gaming 8Gb of RAM is perfect. With this budget i wouldn't put the money in the Samsung ram as it's not exactly cheap not to mention you have many much more important things to spend the money on instead. These Crucials should have some OC headroom to them, but if you want more low profile i would just pick Kingston HyperX Blue's.

I assume this 7950 is on 7970 PCB and as such should overclock nicely, leaving the 660 in the dust.

I would rather pick this OCZ over the Corsair CX series, but do what you find best. Anything much over 500W is utter overkill for 3570k + single card.

Antec Kuhler 620 is a nice low cost AIO which is currently on sale and is much better choice over the Hyper 212. I have personally owned the Antec 620 and I was very pleased with it.

Which mobo you decide to pick doesn't really matter, but I own the UD3H and I have been very pleased with it, so if it has all the connectivity + features you need then it's a no-brainer for the money.

edit: didn't notice that ram kit is only 4GB, ignore that.
Edited by Fulvin - 4/6/13 at 2:27am
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Performance / fps:
7870 Tahiti LE = 100 %
GTX 660 Ti OC = 102 %
7950 Boost Edition = 108 %
GTX 670 = 110 %

Newegg prices 6/4:
7870 Tahiti LE = 100 % <---- Best fps/$
GTX 660 Ti OC = 112 %
7950 Boost Edition = 120 % <---- 2nd best fps/$
GTX 670 = 144 %

A Asrock Z75 will do just as fine. If you wanna go Z77 then i belive Asrock Z77 Pro3 is the cheapest here in EU. You don't need an expensive board, Asrock Z77 Pro3 will be able to push your CPU just at mush as Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, with the same performance. Those last 50 MHz clock (on the same cpu, in testing) is a matter of luck rather then overpriced boards. Only the mobo's CPU power transistors has anything to do with OC stability and you'll only need the expensive stuff for extreme cooling solutions and other extreme stuff. OC'ing a i5-3570K to max on air is far from extreme and you'll then not be needing them.
Edited by Waszipa - 4/6/13 at 4:05am
post #10 of 42
You don't need the fanciness of a $200+ motherboard and here's why:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1252290/z77x-ud3h-review-and-oc-testing-circuit-analysis-ln2-runs-efficiency-comparison/0_20

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.32 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.69 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£238.40 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£56.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£17.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £745.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-06 12:03 BST+0100)

8GB is overkill already for gaming and general-purpose things so I switched that to the Patriot Viper 3 which has great overclock-ability - just in case - very cheap too.
Then for the HDD the WD10EZEX althrough being a Blue drive is faster than the Caviar Black because it's a newer drive that has a single-platter (for more info checkout this thread).
For the video card, I'd go with the HD 7950. It has an outstanding value and it's an high-end GPU.
Then for the case I'd go with the 200R which althrough being cheaper is more solidly built (cf. HardwareCanucks reviews).
Power Supply is fine, you could drop down to the CX500M for this rig but there's only a £5 difference so...

Also, with the salvaged money I'd add an SSD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.32 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£79.98 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£238.40 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£56.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£17.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £825.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-06 12:10 BST+0100)
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