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I know, how dare we not be outraged at things you want us to be outraged at. rolleyes.gif
You're confirming my concerns. People like you are the reason we see ''new'' iterations of the same 2-3 games and movies every years.
If you think taste is a zero sum game that's your problem, not mine. Many companies are going to cater to larger audiences, this is inevitable (if you think catering to 90% of gamers instead of 10% is wrong, then you're wrong, full stop; some companies will still cater to that 10% , great! some companies won't, too bad if you don't like it, don't buy their games then).

I've had quite a lot of fun with Sim City. Somehow the fact that you hate EA has had no effect on my gaming experience. Odd that.
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One of the biggest problems is this:
It shouldn't have more than a minor effect on happiness. It's not realistic at all, it's been made really unbalanced to boost adoption and promote advertising. Not to mention how a lot of people feel about being forced to play Sim City on their servers when it can be done offline...
Except the game isn't free.

Ehh? If it has that much effect than yeah...that is just wrong. That is likely part of the advertisement. They want people to think, "Wow, if my sims are this happy maybe I will be happy with it in real life."

The equivalent of an electric gas station should not have that much effect.


and I also have issues with paying for a game with advertisements, but product placement isn't that detracting and can actually add to a game or movie. It makes them seem more real...more immersive. When you starting seeing ads popping up everywhere there is an issue, but a few well placed are OK even if they go beyond product placement. That is why I don't subscribe to any magazine that isn't free. Every magazine I've looked at there is an ad visible each time you turn a page. It might be only one corner of one of the viewed pages, but there will be an ad of some kind. How they can sell space like that and still charge a subscription or cover charge is beyond me. TV isn't much better...at least they wait 10 minutes to show another commercial most of the time.
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electric gas station

Electric gas station?

Bit of an oxymoron. biggrin.gif
 
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One of the biggest problems is this:
It shouldn't have more than a minor effect on happiness. It's not realistic at all, it's been made really unbalanced to boost adoption and promote advertising. Not to mention how a lot of people feel about being forced to play Sim City on their servers when it can be done offline...
Except the game isn't free.

Ehh? If it has that much effect than yeah...that is just wrong. That is likely part of the advertisement. They want people to think, "Wow, if my sims are this happy maybe I will be happy with it in real life."

The equivalent of an electric gas station should not have that much effect.


and I also have issues with paying for a game with advertisements, but product placement isn't that detracting and can actually add to a game or movie. It makes them seem more real...more immersive. When you starting seeing ads popping up everywhere there is an issue, but a few well placed are OK even if they go beyond product placement. That is why I don't subscribe to any magazine that isn't free. Every magazine I've looked at there is an ad visible each time you turn a page. It might be only one corner of one of the viewed pages, but there will be an ad of some kind. How they can sell space like that and still charge a subscription or cover charge is beyond me. TV isn't much better...at least they wait 10 minutes to show another commercial most of the time.

Disregard, it's really not that big of an effect as people make it out to be. Check your mayor approval rating after dropping 5.
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Disregard, it's really not that big of an effect as people make it out to be. Check your mayor approval rating after dropping 5.

I've been finding it is rather typical that Sim City issues are inflated a bit.
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Disregard, it's really not that big of an effect as people make it out to be. Check your mayor approval rating after dropping 5.

It has a bigger effect than parks, need I say more?
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I know, how dare we not be outraged at things you want us to be outraged at. rolleyes.gif
Now you are getting it.

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Disregard, it's really not that big of an effect as people make it out to be. Check your mayor approval rating after dropping 5.

It has a bigger effect than parks, need I say more?

So... a charging station that lets people charge up their fully electric cars (at the cost of the city) isn't something someone with a fully electric vehicle would be more excited over than a park? I dunno man... I'm skeptical. IRL if a new park were to open around my area I'd be all like "meh..." Yet if the first electric charging station came up (regardless of me not even having an electric car) I'd be pretty impressed/glad that the city is making that move to push electric vehicles.

I get where the opinion of "it being too effective" comes from (and in my opinion it's not overly effective), but the logic behind the opinion is what just amuses me...
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So... a charging station that lets people charge up their fully electric cars (at the cost of the city) isn't something someone with a fully electric vehicle would be more excited over than a park? I dunno man... I'm skeptical. IRL if a new park were to open around my area I'd be all like "meh..." Yet if the first electric charging station came up (regardless of me not even having an electric car) I'd be pretty impressed/glad that the city is making that move to push electric vehicles.

I get where the opinion of "it being too effective" comes from (and in my opinion it's not overly effective), but the logic behind the opinion is what just amuses me...

Real life Electric Vehicle charging stations aren't brought to you by one car manufacturer.



SimCity's implementation is blatant advertising, with the rewards encouraging the download.



EA is looking for the right balance of adding advertising in games.

http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/when-it-comes-ads-games-these-guys-arent-playing-around-141158

So long as people like yourself accept it, support it, and defend it, EA will continue these practices.

Add this link to your sig, and help raise awareness. thumb.gif
http://www.ea.com/1/advertise
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Screw it, if there's benefits, I'll download it but that doesn't change the way I feel about Nissan or electric cars.
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