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New to water cooling, would like some advice please.

post #1 of 11
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Hey guys, this is of course, one of my first post on the forum, I've been ghosting here forever though.

I've finally made the leap into building my own computer and was confident I would be able to handle water cooling over air....



And then I read posts......and more posts, and then I'm just staring into my monitor with a dumbfounded face.


So I've been looking at plenty of options, and I've been able to narrow down just a little bit, so here goes:

1. I would like to stay away from the CLC kits if at all possible, like the Corsair H100, But I am still open to them.
2. Currently I'm looking to just cool the cpu.
3. When I do branch into full blown custom water cooling love, I would like to push into dual loop, one for cpu and one for my gpus.


My price cap would be about $250, hoping to spend a tad less. Shipping not included in that price.

What I'm working with:
i7-3770k
Asrock Z77 Extreme4
HAF X Tower
Dual 7870 Sapphire XT vidja cards.

I live in an Apartment thats not directly in the sunlight until the late day, around 4 or 5 and I have thick curtains to keep the heat out. So I would suppose my ambient would be ~75F so 23C, but I have not lived a summer through this apartment. I am thinking it would be keeping around 23C.

Also, I do not plan to overclock until this computer is in a basement or cooler area of some kind, and I plan to externally mount the radiator.

Finally, I've been attempting to move through posts and websites finding reviews, and recommendations, and I've began looking at a few kits.

In no real order:
- Swiftech H220
- Swiftech H20-320 Edge
- XSPC Raystorm 750 RX240


Thank you so much for taking the time to help me, I feel like I could bring my automotive background into play for something custom in the near future biggrin.gif
post #2 of 11
Just get this

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16070/ex-wat-210/XSPC_Raystorm_EX240_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Included_and_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c321s1310

Everything you need, but the distilled water. Also, you do not need a dual loop for GPU, unless you really want to spend a lot of money. Hell, I am running same cpu and 2 gtx 680s all with the crappy xspc 750 pump and everything stays under 50 when all are fully loaded.
post #3 of 11
Yeah that's basically what you need, I have the Raystorm block and it works great.

Something I picked up reading about single vs dual loops: Your cpu and gpu are almost never both at full load at the same time, so when your cpu is relatively idle like when playing games the extra cooling capacity will benefit your gpu, and vice-versa. theres actually not a whole lot of reasons to go dual loop.
    
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post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by wsjackson5 View Post

Yeah that's basically what you need, I have the Raystorm block and it works great.

Something I picked up reading about single vs dual loops: Your cpu and gpu are almost never both at full load at the same time, so when your cpu is relatively idle like when playing games the extra cooling capacity will benefit your gpu, and vice-versa. theres actually not a whole lot of reasons to go dual loop.

Agreed.
post #5 of 11
That XSPC kit is great smile.gif
To be honest, i think it's always better to buy a great pump, reservoir, radiator, and waterblock , this will make it so maybe in a few weeks or months you won't want to change out one of the parts for something better

If it was up to me
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19407/ex-wat-253/XSPC_Raystorm_Customizable_RX240_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Included_and_Free_Dead-Water.html
Nice thick radiator and if you are going to mount externally think about a 360 as well!
best of luck with the build mate thumb.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1374649/poll-reliable-online-sites - thread with great sites you can use to look for products, seem even have nice promo codes in there for a discount on parts biggrin.gif
  
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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post

That XSPC kit is great smile.gif
To be honest, i think it's always better to buy a great pump, reservoir, radiator, and waterblock , this will make it so maybe in a few weeks or months you won't want to change out one of the parts for something better

If it was up to me
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19407/ex-wat-253/XSPC_Raystorm_Customizable_RX240_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Included_and_Free_Dead-Water.html
Nice thick radiator and if you are going to mount externally think about a 360 as well!
best of luck with the build mate thumb.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1374649/poll-reliable-online-sites - thread with great sites you can use to look for products, seem even have nice promo codes in there for a discount on parts biggrin.gif

The RX rads are great, but the EX rads perform just as well using higher speed fans. Plus, they save a ton of space.
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the quick replies.

I would've thought the dual loop would've been necessary for my cards, very happy you guys steered me away from that xD

As I gather, its unanimously with xspc, which makes this a little easier, and as I've gathered with a tad more research it goes...

Rx > Ex > Rs, I wouldn't say space is an issue because i'll be keeping it on the outside of the case, suppose i'll etch out a bit more and hop onto the rx360.

Fiancé just walked in and said get the bigger one. I suppose it would be best for future endeavors. I'll be going with the XSPC RX360 D5.

Now for the tubing, is there any tubing size that is better than another? I've read its negligible but I would like to do it right the first time.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Zam88 View Post

Thank you for the quick replies.

I would've thought the dual loop would've been necessary for my cards, very happy you guys steered me away from that xD

As I gather, its unanimously with xspc, which makes this a little easier, and as I've gathered with a tad more research it goes...

Rx > Ex > Rs, I wouldn't say space is an issue because i'll be keeping it on the outside of the case, suppose i'll etch out a bit more and hop onto the rx360.

Fiancé just walked in and said get the bigger one. I suppose it would be best for future endeavors. I'll be going with the XSPC RX360 D5.

Now for the tubing, is there any tubing size that is better than another? I've read its negligible but I would like to do it right the first time.

The EX performs just as well as the RX. But if you want the RX do it. That is fun of doing what we do.

As for tubing, this is all I use. Tons of colors.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17889/ex-tub-1621/PrimoChill_PrimoFlex_Advanced_LRT_Tubing_716ID_x_58_OD_-_10ft_Retail_Pack_-_Bloodshed_Red_PFLEXA10-758-R_w_Free_Sys_Prep.html?tl=g30c99s809

I do not like to color my water and opt for colored tubing, but you can get clear and use coloring if you want.
post #9 of 11
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Thanks Selluminis, I went with the RX and the primochill was what I went for the tubing! It was a few days ago, and I do apologize for the late reply. Was in the process of being accepted by the Masons.

Here's what I ended up with, a little extra help with the money dept too thumb.gif:
XSPC Raystorm Rx360 D5 Varient
Primochill Red Tubing, Advanced LRT
XSPC low profile chrome compression fittings
A kill coil
6x 120mm Yate Loons Red LED fans, medium rpm for the rad.
1x 140mm Yate Loons Red LED fan, high rpm for the case exhaust.



My tough decision now is deciding on how to mount the rad, with a kit, or customizing the case. Sorry for leaning on OCN, any recommendations on mounting?
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Zam88 View Post

Thanks Selluminis, I went with the RX and the primochill was what I went for the tubing! It was a few days ago, and I do apologize for the late reply. Was in the process of being accepted by the Masons.

Here's what I ended up with, a little extra help with the money dept too thumb.gif:
XSPC Raystorm Rx360 D5 Varient
Primochill Red Tubing, Advanced LRT
XSPC low profile chrome compression fittings
A kill coil
6x 120mm Yate Loons Red LED fans, medium rpm for the rad.
1x 140mm Yate Loons Red LED fan, high rpm for the case exhaust.



My tough decision now is deciding on how to mount the rad, with a kit, or customizing the case. Sorry for leaning on OCN, any recommendations on mounting?

That is a fun question. I think it will fit in the top. Might need to take out a drive bay or 2. Here are a couple threads to look at.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1289478/haf-x-and-rx360-radiator/0_100

Here is a build log.

http://www.overclock.net/t/985350/haf-x-red-star-360-rad-on-top-240-on-bottom/0_100

Looks like you will only be able to use fans on the one side, unless you mount the other outside the case.

Have fun. This is going to be cool. Hell, I would turn this thread into your build log.... biggrin.gif
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