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I live in eastern europe and I see on eu steam new games for 50-60eur, in local brick store its 40+eur and my online shop vendor from who i buy always, has them for 30+eur including preorder bonuses. so if my local vendor is profitable then he must buy them for 20-25eur and then i see no reason that amd doesnot get them in bulk for 15eur~20dolars
its win win win for everyone. and yeah thanks to dlc they have no problem to sell games cheap

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I live in eastern europe and I see on eu steam new games for 50-60eur, in local brick store its 40+eur and my online shop vendor from who i buy always, has them for 30+eur including preorder bonuses.

Lucky you. Western Europe pays the highest prices for anything computer/videogame related amongst all evolved countries (that are in the G20)
   
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That's a silly question. We'd be perfectly fine with Dx7 with that logic.

Actually, shaders are pretty handy. DX7 is NOT adequate for this reason.

If you'd have said DX9, I'd have agreed mostly - the improvements since have been very subtle, mostly physics-based with some work on transparency
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haha, to bad im buying a 7950 in a few days, oh well, Bioshock and crysis here i come!
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Good!
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Unlikely we'll get direct x 12 games for 7 to 10 years.... The next Gen Consoles are only DX11 LOL
 
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Yes which is why they're likely getting bulk prices minus a discount. I however doubt that the discount is so big that the games cost next to nothing. There's a reason why they only offer two games and why Nvidia doesn't want to offer the games when they don't need to do it...

EA (or whoever is selling the game) can't sell that particular game to that gamer anymore when he gets it with a GPU. Yes they're more likely sell some DLC, and sell more games but they still do not want to just practically give away the games.

Smart guy.

Dissection of a bundle deal:

AMD and NVIDIA bid for the bundle by offering $5 to $10 per copy of the game to be included with the sale of their gpu. This makes sense when the developer is not sure they will sell that many copies... They figure as long as the volume of the deal is large enough to offset the reduction in sale price, everything is fine. After all if they think everyone that buys the hardware will buy their game anyway they probably won't agree to a bundle where their game sells for 1/4 the normal price.

For the hardware guys, spending $5-$10 per game copy is fine as long as it can add more than $5-$10 of value to their GPUs.

Also by doing a bundle on a game you sort of force feed it to gamers such that you increase the games relevance and visibility to the market... assuming of course the game is at least half decent to begin with. These bundle deals also tend to come with co-marketing agreements which buy (yes buy) the hardware companies technology partnerships (read "influence") with the developer... meaning they can forcefully (via contract) put in custom effects and shaders that are tuned for their hardware and not the competitor's, so that the hardware company's performance looks amazing and their competitor's looks like when the game ships.

So don't be fooled by all these press releases about relationships with developers etc. it's almost always a money game to skew performance in one direction artificially by tuning for one architecture and not another, then force feeding the game to the market via bundling.

You're welcome.
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good news id much prefer an open source graphics API into the future than being locked into a Microsoft platform monopoly
You say that now, but monopolies make the world go 'round laddy.

So many more games would be so horrible if we didn't have huge neonazi companies buying out smaller companies and spending hundreds of millions developing what originally had a budget of a few thousand dollars.
    
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DX11 still has plenty juice left and ALOT of optimization to be done.
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This is kind of a good thing to be honest
Consoles aren't getting DX11 till the end of the year, for us to then get DX12 will then mean that instead of getting nice ports that play well and take advantage of the hardware we have we will be stuck with bad ports that don't take advantage

not to mention if these new consoles have the long life span like the current gen then it means we get to save money in the long run as we don't have to worry about upgrading our stuff as often smile.gif
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