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AMD doesn't make big chips.
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Should CAN AMD make a Titan-like card?
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post #13 of 27
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AMD doesn't do big dies. They tried a 420mm^2 once and it was a colossal failure.

Different time and circumstances. Cayman was and Tahiti is almost that large and AMD had no trouble with either of them.

That being said AMD won't go any larger. They don't need to anyway.
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post #14 of 27
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Should CAN AMD make a Titan-like card?
First question that popped into my mind. Someone had to say it.
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AMD doesn't do big dies. They tried a 420mm^2 once and it was a colossal failure.
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Originally Posted by SpencerC View Post

Different time and circumstances. Cayman was and Tahiti is almost that large and AMD had no trouble with either of them.

That being said AMD won't go any larger. They don't need to anyway.

Tahiti is 365mm^2, Cayman is 389mm^2. Not on the same level of difficulty as a GF/GK110 520/551mm^2 die
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Should CAN AMD make a Titan-like card?

2900XT, 512 bit bus, matched their 3870 for performance, took the 3DMark05 record over 3870x2 quad fire briefly.
It was a failure though, they won't want a repeat.
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post #17 of 27
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2900XT, 512 bit bus, matched their 3870 for performance, took the 3DMark05 record over 3870x2 quad fire briefly.
It was a failure though, they won't want a repeat.

3870 was just a die shrink of the 2900XT and released around 9 months later...
 
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3870 was just a die shrink of the 2900XT and released around 9 months later...

I know, but if I say it this way it makes it sound more impressive. tongue.gif
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AMD doesn't do big dies. They tried a 420mm^2 once and it was a colossal failure.

However even if they tried, designing a chip can take years.
Titan is 20-40% over a 7970GHz for around 30% better performance on average. Overclocking potential between the cards is similar.

Proof of the 8970 being almost 30% better than a 7970GHz? They have a hell of a job to do with a 28nm chip seeing how power hungry 7970GHz cards are already. Unless they get early access to 20nm there's no reason to believe that they can get that big of a leap in performance. It would require a big increase in transistor budget.
11.1 is about as used as 10.1 meaning that it's pointless. Nevertheless it's a technicality, pretty much all the important features are there. Only few are missing which is why kepler cards can't be called 11.1.

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Don't get me wrong it's an overpriced vanity item but what I said is pretty much accurate.
 
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