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Hello guys,

This upcoming build will be my first time watercooling, and I figured I could really use some advice from the pro's.

So the build I'm planning to do will feature / need cooling for the following:

-> Intel i7-4770k
-> 1 (or possibly even 2) Nvidia GTX Titan(s)

I'll be doing this build in the new-and-upcoming Corsair 900D, so mounting any kind of radiator shouldn't be too much of a problem.
The thing is, I've been looking at the EK waterblocks for the Titans, and seeing as this'll be my first time, I've got little to no idea of what I need to cool the CPU and up to two Titans effectively.
Tubing, blocks, rads, reservoirs and pumps, I need all of it, and I most definitely need advice on all of it....

So I'd love some suggestions from you guys...
Price isn't the biggest issue, but availability/shipping to Europe is!
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titans are really low heat producing GPUs you should be fine with a nice thick 360 or maybe a thin 360 and 240 if money isen't an issue load up the rads... you cant go wrong with ek water cooling gear btw... side note you can never go lower then the ambient temp of the room the pc is in so dumping in tons of rads has diminishing returns
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titans are really low heat producing GPUs you should be fine with a nice thick 360 or maybe a thin 360 and 240 if money isen't an issue load up the rads... you cant go wrong with ek water cooling gear btw... side note you can never go lower then the ambient temp of the room the pc is in so dumping in tons of rads has diminishing returns

No, dont say diminishing returns! its taboo here in OCN!

Anyway jokes aside, since you are going for a 900D, just put two 480 rads in there and be done with it.
One on the top and one on the bottom, you dont want such a huge case to look empty. just my 2cents.
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I'd be inclined to take advantage of the 900D's size and put a single 480 in either the top or bottom. With a lovely push/pull setup, this should be just fine to cool CPU & 2 Titans and will let you expand in the future. Plus it looks cool.

Hard to be 100% certain of CPU blocks for haswell at this point - I don't think we're totally sure on how they're going to mount yet, as it's a new chipset. I believe the Coolance 380i is the current king for the 1155 chipset, but that might not hold true with 1150.

Primochill tubing is nice (advanced, not pro - pro had plasticizer problems). Fittings are more of a personal choice - I love the swiftech compression fittings personally.
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since you are going for a 900D, just put two 480 rads in there and be done with it.
One on the top and one on the bottom, you dont want such a huge case to look empty. just my 2cents.

Yeah, exactly - why not two if you can afford it. You know it'll cool whatever you throw at it.
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so, my shopping list looks a bit like this, then:

-> 1150-compatible CPU-block. (possibly EK, if I'm ordering from them anyway?)
-> 2 EK waterblocks for the GPU's.
-> Tubing, Primochill advanced (already heard good things about that one)
-> plenty of fittings to fit everything together.
-> at least 1 480 rad
-> pump and reservoir?
-> coolant?


I'd still love some advice on the pump, reservoir, coolant and possibly the fittings.
Thanks for the help so far guys!
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Fortunately, the best coolant is also by far the cheapest - Distilled water and something to kill bacteriar (pt nuke, deadwater, or a silver coil).

I like the D5 pumps personally - the brands all basically the same (different sticker), so I'd pick the cheapest. Getting two and running them through a custom top will give you some security in case one fails.
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-> Intel i7-4770k
Did you mean 3770K?
    
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Did you mean 3770K?

4770k is the upcoming Haswell. Not released yet.
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so, my shopping list looks a bit like this, then:

-> 1150-compatible CPU-block. (possibly EK, if I'm ordering from them anyway?)
-> 2 EK waterblocks for the GPU's.
-> Tubing, Primochill advanced (already heard good things about that one)
-> plenty of fittings to fit everything together.
-> at least 1 480 rad
-> pump and reservoir?
-> coolant?


I'd still love some advice on the pump, reservoir, coolant and possibly the fittings.
Thanks for the help so far guys!

....looks like you have both good plans and good feedback per posts already here. I have 3 water-cooled systems running concurrently (3970X, delidded 3770K and 3770), all of which are heavily oc'ed. The first issue, that of case size, you already addressed with your choice of the Corsair 900D ("Casezilla"). Before I get into pumps etc, a quick question: Are you planning to 'heavily' overclock ?

A 3770K is rated at 77w t-max 'stock', yet at 5.1 GHz or so and at typical room temps, you're talking abut 200 Watts plus (hard to believe but there are several guides on this site which confirm this, in addition to my own experience / kill-a-watt meter)...that's at least 200 watts of heat energy you have to dissipate. A Haswell 4770K has a slightly higher t-max at stock due to the more powerful iGPU (t=86 w max, but have to confirm). Never mind the 6c/12t 3970X that has a stock t-=max of 150w...before overclocking... rolleyes.gif

The kicker is when you add tow powerful vid cards such as Titan's into the mix...at that point, you're adding about 500w for SLI...for that reason, I prefer to run two separate loops - one for the oc'ed CPU (and perhaps VRMs), one for the GPUs, though it can be done on a single system if you use min of two 360/60 rads, but since 480s fit into the 900D...smile.gif

--- tubing --- CPU blocks --- pumps --- fittings etc

I only use PrimoChill Advanced LRT tubing (per pic below). Size-wise, you have some choices, though given the oc'ed nature of what I run, I went with 1/2inch inner / 3/4inch outer diameter...I called it wrestling 'a cranky Python' before when you set the system up, but you will be thankful later.

For CPU blocks, I prefer Koolance 370i/380 but EK blocks also have an excellent reputation (and are apparently good for LG1150). For pumps, I strictly stick with Swiftech MPC 655 'industrial' pumps which have great flow and great long-term reliability. This pump shows in various other guises by other manufacturers - just make sure you don't get s.th. with the MPC 655 'B' variant as that eliminates pump speed adjustment options.

Fittings are very much a personal choice, though I went with Swifttech compression fittings (just check them for tightness a few weeks after the initial install)...reservoirs are again a personal choice and also a function of available space...the Swiftech MCRE-MICRO Rev2 are compact and nice, though you may want to mount s.th. more flashy if you plan on displaying the case mods via lighting etc...the 900D certainly has the space for various reservoirs...

Also get some industrial strength Velcro (helps secure some components while allowing for easy removal). For coolant, you can either go for distilled water w/antibacterial additives and/or a bit of silver secured in the reservoir - I went with EK ('bloodred') coolants which have all the additives already in there, and again are considered a good industry standard.

Fans are a whole other science onto themselves...consider 'push' vs 'push / pull' and also noise, along with your specific radiator 'core design'...Monsta rads are top-of-the line though XSPC are also very highly rated - and come in various sizes and core fin count designs.

...this is already getting too long so here is a 'spoiler' of basic tips for building up a w-c system I got from a pro before my first w-c build:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
smile.gif ..if the tubes don't want to easily slide over a barb or work in a compression fitting, you can dip one end in a cup of fairly warm water for a couple of minutes, then use a needle-nose pliers to open them up a bit (carefully)...

smile.gif ..I use Teflon plumber tape on all screw-in fittings that touch the cooling liquid, but only on the first few threads - you don't want bits of Teflon floating around in your loop (pump!) later...

smile.gif ...make sure that your reservoir is near and slightly above your pump as you need to make certain that your pump never runs dry...

smile.gif ...before you start, buy a few gallons of distilled water and thoroughly flush your radiator several times...you would be surprised how many little pieces of dirt / paint shavings come out, even in a brad new all-copper or brass setup...I even flushed the tubes and the Koolance block before mounting...

smile.gif ...when placing the MPC655 pump, make sure that you can reach the back adjustment screw once mounted...also, consider that down the road, you need to flush / drain the system for maintenance, so plan accordingly re access to drain plugs etc...

smile.gif ...unless you run cooling liquids with anti-bacterial additives, you may also want to glue a small piece of silver tape in your reservoir as silver is a really good anti-bacterial agent

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