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Recently bought the swiftech h220 and was thinking of adding swiftechs mcp 355 into the loop just in case the h220 pump would fail. better to add the mcp355 for $80 to protech a $250 3770k or not ? anyone have an opinion
post #2 of 11
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Originally Posted by Rabid1 View Post

Recently bought the swiftech h220 and was thinking of adding swiftechs mcp 355 into the loop just in case the h220 pump would fail. better to add the mcp355 for $80 to protech a $250 3770k or not ? anyone have an opinion

Don't do this . wth.gif

If your pump fail, your CPU will hit TJmax and shut down and no harm will be done to it. This way you will see that the pump is dead. Don't waste more money in a pump.
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Originally Posted by Rabid1 View Post

Recently bought the swiftech h220 and was thinking of adding swiftechs mcp 355 into the loop just in case the h220 pump would fail. better to add the mcp355 for $80 to protech a $250 3770k or not ? anyone have an opinion

Don't do this . wth.gif

If your pump fail, your CPU will hit TJmax (Thermal Junction Max) and shut down and no harm will be done to it. This way you will see that the pump is dead. Don't waste more money in a pump.
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post #4 of 11
I agree it would be unnecessary. It would be another source of vibration/noise and require fittings (its always the little stuff that adds to expense when watercooling)

Flow sensors are pretty neat. However, they are restrictive to flow and costly.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16903/ex-tub-1371/Bitspower_G14_Thread_Flow_Sensor_-_Matte_Black_BP-FS-CLBKMBK.html
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post #5 of 11
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thx didn't think of that
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

Don't do this . wth.gif

If your pump fail, your CPU will hit TJmax (Thermal Junction Max) and shut down and no harm will be done to it. This way you will see that the pump is dead. Don't waste more money in a pump.

True, but .....

Here is my main argument for dual pumps. If I have two pumps and one fails,

1. I can keep doing whatever I am doing.
2. My system still works while I am waiting for my new pump.
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post #7 of 11
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True, but .....

Here is my main argument for dual pumps. If I have two pumps and one fails,

1. I can keep doing whatever I am doing.
2. My system still works while I am waiting for my new pump.

I understand its good to have two pumps in a big cutom loop, but would you honestly add a second pump in a close-loop cooler?

CPU Block --> Radiator -->>Pump-->Pump-->(back to CPU block)

The Swiftech H22o Cost 140$ and you would add another 80$ pump in it?

Just put the i7 3770k stock cooler while waiting for the other cooler.
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post #8 of 11
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but I,ll be adding a 680 with water block come fall and I like the idea of no downtime if 1 pump fails and don't like the idea of having my cpu hitting TJmax , so I can see both side of the issue, i,m really leaning towards the 2nd pump the h220 is expandable and have seen cpu and sli video cards added to the loop on an h220 so the swiftech is anything but a closed loop system
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

I understand its good to have two pumps in a big cutom loop, but would you honestly add a second pump in a close-loop cooler?

CPU Block --> Radiator -->>Pump-->Pump-->(back to CPU block)

The Swiftech H22o Cost 140$ and you would add another 80$ pump in it?

Just put the i7 3770k stock cooler while waiting for the other cooler.

Probably not, but, the OP might. He asked, I provided an excuse. Only fair.
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post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Rabid1 View Post

but I,ll be adding a 680 with water block come fall and I like the idea of no downtime if 1 pump fails and don't like the idea of having my cpu hitting TJmax , so I can see both side of the issue, i,m really leaning towards the 2nd pump the h220 is expandable and have seen cpu and sli video cards added to the loop on an h220 so the swiftech is anything but a closed loop system

You are correct the H220 is not a closed loop system, and has can easily be expanded. But if you wanted a dual pump system it would have been awesome to start with the total custom loop so that you could match the pumps. If you want to add the second pump there is no harm in it and to your point will be helpful. You will have downtime no matter what even when you try and replace 1 pump out if ever something goes bad.
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