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Hey guys, I'm a new member so hi!

My Sapphire 7950 Dual-X recently blew (long story) but I managed to get it refunded because the old Dual X is discontinued. I picked up the new 7950 Flex (Boost) today, and was a little put off because the voltage is locked and after some tooling with GPU-Z and HWInfo, I realised that it doesn't have any VRM temperature sensors... :/

I was thinking of taking it back and replacing it with the new MSI TF3 Boost (I can get it with the Never Settle Reloaded stuff for 220), but I've read and heard that MSI's VRM cooling isn't so good and that the general quality can lack sometimes. Anyone care to offer opinion or alternatives? I'm based in the UK for informations sake, and not looking to spend more than £250.

Cheers,

Aneesh
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Where did you hear MSI GPU's had bad VRM cooling? They are some of the best cards you can get. If it's not a hassle, get the TF3 smile.gif
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I'll try and get my Sapphire 7950 returned and nab an MSI one whilst I can!
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Hi Aneesh99,

Can't say about the 7950 TF3 but I have a 6950 TF3 and it plain kicks. Had it for 2 years and it still keeps up. As for cooling the 6950 is supposed to run hotter than the 7000's and mine is consistently in the 40's Celsius.

My next card will also be a TF3 unless some really incredible deal on something else comes along.

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Cheers, just ordering it smile.gif Preachp, if you're from the UK, it's on sale from Overclockers for £220, too good to pass up! smile.gif
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I am running both the Dual X Sapphire and the MSI Twin Frozr III versions of 7950's and they are both good card but I would have to say if I had to get rid of one it would be the TFIII. They are both on 7970 PCB's and have 6+8pin connectors. The TFIII may stay 5 degrees cooler at the same fan speed % but it gets noisy around 60%. The TFIII at 60% fan speed is like my Dual-X at 80% and the dual x at 80% cools better.....Also, I can't get stable overclocks on my TFIII over 1100mhz and I can do 1200mhz on my Dual-X.

Anyways, just my experience and 2 cents.
    
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Originally Posted by Jake_9611 View Post

I am running both the Dual X Sapphire and the MSI Twin Frozr III versions of 7950's and they are both good card but I would have to say if I had to get rid of one it would be the TFIII. They are both on 7970 PCB's and have 6+8pin connectors. The TFIII may stay 5 degrees cooler at the same fan speed % but it gets noisy around 60%. The TFIII at 60% fan speed is like my Dual-X at 80% and the dual x at 80% cools better.....Also, I can't get stable overclocks on my TFIII over 1100mhz and I can do 1200mhz on my Dual-X.

Anyways, just my experience and 2 cents.

Thats funny because I am running crossfire with a Saphire Dual-x 2L and an MSI TFIII and if I would get rid of one it would be the Sapphire. Wanna trade? lol
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Hi Aneesh99,

Afraid not my friend, I am across the pond. But all is good as I am not ready to jump yet. Good luck and enjoy.

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What's your ASIC Quality %? I can only get mine up to 1150 (regardless of voltage) before encountering in-game artifacting. I'd like to see if there is in fact a correlation between the ASIC quality value and performance.

To the OP: I'd suggest the Sapphire Dual-X. I'm a huge MSI fan but from what I've experience and witnessed second hand from other forumers, MSI cards don't overclock well. Don't get me wrong, they are the best quality cards out there, especially when playing for the green team, however, their OCing capabilities lack that of competitors.
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Originally Posted by SkullTrail View Post

What's your ASIC Quality %? I can only get mine up to 1150 (regardless of voltage) before encountering in-game artifacting. I'd like to see if there is in fact a correlation between the ASIC quality value and performance.

To the OP: I'd suggest the Sapphire Dual-X. I'm a huge MSI fan but from what I've experience and witnessed second hand from other forumers, MSI cards don't overclock well. Don't get me wrong, they are the best quality cards out there, especially when playing for the green team, however, their OCing capabilities lack that of competitors.

I don't agree with that at all. My MSI TFIII OC's to 1225/1625 on air and temps don't get over 67c. All of the people I know who has it can overclock it to 1200Mhz except for a couple people who get crappy cards and can only overclock it to 1125Mhz-1150Mhz. It's all a matter of luck. I have the Sapphire Dual-x in crossfire with the MSI TFIII and it lags my OC all the way down to 1150/1600. The sapphire has a cheap plastic shroud with Sapphire stickers on it while the MSI has a nice machined metal shroud with the MSI TFIII logo machined in. No stickers. Plus Sapphire customer service absolutely SUCKS. Like I said before, a good OC really all depends on luck, but with the TFIII you have a better chance at a good OC rather than the Sapphire. Both are good cards, but in my own personal opinion I think the TFIII blows the Dual-x out of the water.

Also ASIC quality means absolutely nothing when talking about boost cards because the higher voltage messes up the score so there is no real information you can get by comparing scores. My MSI TFIII has a 67% ASIC score and the Dual-x has a 71% score.
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