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post #11 of 60
The only upgrade path that I see as being worthwhile, as in a true upgrade and not just a new chip putting out the same or very similar numbers, is a 3930K paired with a good motherboard (Rampage IV Extreme, the Formula doesn't have 8 DIMMs and is just not as nice IMHO; the G1.Sniper is a great gaming board; the Asus P9X79 Pro is a great "all rounder") and 16GB of top notch RAM specifically DDR3-2133 with good timings (GSkill Ripjaws Z 16GB 2133 9-11-10-28 4x4GB kit is far and away the best memory I've owned, trouncing the Dominator Platinum/GT/GTX/GTX3 kits I've had).

You get a 6C/12T CPU with 12MB L3 Cache that will more than likely run 4.5-4.6 on air (4.6-5.0 on a custom loop), Quad Channel memory, 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes (36 available, I believe) supporting x16/x16, x16/x8/x8, or x8/x8/x8x/8 PCI-E3.0 lane setups for 2, 3, and 4 card SLI/CFX setups, and a whole lot more.

I got mine from Micro Center for $459, and I got my Rampage 4 Extreme at the same time as it had been mistakenly labeled open box (it wasn't open box, it'd never been sold and returned even) as they honored the $318 discounted price; got $40 off on top of that for buying the two together, and I also picked up 4x 64GB USB3.0 flash drives @ $24/ea, a few Delta 120x38mm 5400rpm fans @ $23/ea, 5 spools of 100' each white wire (18AWG, 16AWG, and 12AWG) for $7-10/ea, 4x TrippLite ISOBAR Ultra surge suppressors and voltage regulators (2x ISOBAR4Ultra, 1x ISOBAR6Ultra, and 1x ISOBAR HT Ultra) @ $41/$49/$47 ea respectively, and a few other things including 3x Micro Center 120GB SATA III SSD's, 4x MC 64GB SATA III SSD's, a pair of open-box Samsung F3 1TB HDD's (actual Samsung units) for $44.95/ea, a WD RE4 2TB HDD for $81, and around a dozen other items. They were running some special deal with their credit card, where signing up got you 20 percent off your entire purchase, with the discount calculated on the non-sale prices of each item (ie the Dell U2410 was on sale for $329 from $439, but I got $88 off instead of $66).

Tgus my advice is to go to Micro Center, find the right motherboard, grab the processor, and get anything else you might need and sign up for the credit card, the regular discount being 10 or 15 percent I believe. Purchases over $500 give you 12mo, and anything below that is 6 I'm pretty sure.

Happy shopping.
   
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GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD WD5000HHTZ 10krpm 500GB VelociRaptor 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
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55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
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R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
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Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter 
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post #12 of 60
You don't need a motherboard with X16/X16 PCI-E slots.

1) There have been numerous reports already about CrossFire HD7970 running 100 % at X8/X8 configuration just as good as on X16/X16.

2) Core i7 960 does not need any upgrades, rather than a six core Intel.

3) Upgrade the rig if you feel you need USB 3 or SATA3 from the motherboard, not because of the performance or bottlenecks.
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Thread Starter 
Can you send me sone of those links
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Most higher-end Z77 motherboards use PLX chip to give more than 2-way SLI/CFX, which I personally feel is a bit more lag-y than running straight off the processor....
   
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WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD WD5000HHTZ 10krpm 500GB VelociRaptor 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter 
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i7 3930K @ 4.92Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD WD5000HHTZ 10krpm 500GB VelociRaptor 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter 
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post #16 of 60
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Originally Posted by KEITHRH12 View Post

Was thinkin of upgrading the rig.

was going to cf the 7970 and get a new mobo and cpu.

I mainly game, Bf3, Crysis......

What would be a good long term upgrade?

Please keep in mind I will be running 7970's in cf.

And would like a mobo with 2 16x slots

Wait and see what Haswell is like. Some people just get a weird itch to upgrade every few years even if it might not be necessary. I still have my i7 960 and absolutely am satisfied with it. Paying for a brand new CPU and motherboard this close to Haswell is something I wouldn't do, especially since X58 is far from a dead socket.

Wait around for Haswell, I'm sticking with my 960 until Skylake thumb.gif
post #17 of 60
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Wait and see what Haswell is like. Some people just get a weird itch to upgrade every few years even if it might not be necessary. I still have my i7 960 and absolutely am satisfied with it. Paying for a brand new CPU and motherboard this close to Haswell is something I wouldn't do, especially since X58 is far from a dead socket.

Wait around for Haswell, I'm sticking with my 960 until Skylake thumb.gif

spot on JoshL, I also find that the longer I wait to upgrade I can afford the top range stuff every 3-4 years or so which makes me more excited than getting new mid-ranged hardware every year.

Also you appreciate it so much more as there is a much greater improvement tongue.gif

I like I candy too but I cant always understand the need for people to get expensive new hardware every year to run games at max settings when you can just do with High/med settings in games for the last years of your rig and save your wallet. I say this as often the visual difference between high and max settings is minimal but it cuts the framerate really hard
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post #18 of 60
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spot on JoshL, I also find that the longer I wait to upgrade I can afford the top range stuff every 3-4 years or so which makes me more excited than getting new mid-ranged hardware every year.

Also you appreciate it so much more as there is a much greater improvement tongue.gif

I like I candy too but I cant always understand the need for people to get expensive new hardware every year to run games at max settings when you can just do with High/med settings in games for the last years of your rig and save your wallet. I say this as often the visual difference between high and max settings is minimal but it cuts the framerate really hard

Exactly, why would you want to upgrade every 2 or so years and just get mid-range hardware everytime? Wait 4-5 years and get a full-on rocking system that is gonna bring all the geeks to your yard, haha.

Yeah, it blows my mind when I see people like, "I have an i5 2500K clocked at 4.8GHz and two GTX 580s, I need to upgrade because game X can't be played on max settings, while recording, getting 60 FPS." High settings for games and food on the table is preferred to max settings and having nothing but beans and rice dinners for a month in my book. biggrin.gif
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Ok so I will wait, maybe get another 7970 or hold out for the 7990, Will have I have a bottle neck at my cpu with 2 7970's?

I shouldnt with the 7990, I would think.
post #20 of 60
the 7990 is basically two 7970's so the bottleneck would be the same as 2 7970's maybe a little better,

You will not have a bottleneck with 1 7970, with two there may be a noticeable bottlneck at stock but you should be fine if you are overclocking the CPU.
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