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Do you still think PcPer was paid by Nvidia to do this review? If anyone is paying PcPer anything it's AMD, go figure.

Where did I say they were paid? I said the ginger kid is obviously bending on one side.

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For your Single GPU choice, Titan the fastest single GPU would like a word with you. wink.gif

Don't play with words, you know that I know that the Titan is BY FAR the strongest single GPU card in the world. tongue.gif
I wish I had two, but not 3 or 4... scaling puke.gif
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just to recap, frame time recorded by a program like msi afterburner isnt valid?
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Where did I say they were paid? I said the ginger kid is obviously bending on one side.
Don't play with words, you know that I know that the Titan is BY FAR the strongest single GPU card in the world. tongue.gif
I wish I had two, but not 3 or 4... scaling puke.gif

I was asking if you still believe that, as you have been pretty vocal about that in other threads. wink.gif
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just to recap, frame time recorded by a program like msi afterburner isnt valid?

It is valid for single-GPU
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frames per second per second... nice graphs. thumb.gif
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People need to realize that Fcat (which is the results you see in the OP) is from Nvidia. The terminology used (IE: runt frames, etc) come from Nvidia. If you want to argue for or against the results you do so knowing that it's a benchmark methodology created by one competitor and used for another.
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People need to realize that Fcat (which is the results you see in the OP) is from Nvidia. The terminology used (IE: runt frames, etc) come from Nvidia. If you want to argue for or against the results you do so knowing that it's a benchmark methodology created by one competitor and used for another.
So what? It is counting frames that are being shown to the user. Don't see what difference different cards would make. But I still can't wait to see other reviewers use something similar
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People need to realize that Fcat (which is the results you see in the OP) is from Nvidia. The terminology used (IE: runt frames, etc) come from Nvidia. If you want to argue for or against the results you do so knowing that it's a benchmark methodology created by one competitor and used for another.
If you don't understand how it works, then you need to shut up about it being made by Nvidia. The parsing tools can't tell if the video came from a nvidia card or an AMD card, and you can see the runt frames on video captured without the overlay tool. Does Nvidia stand to gain from this information being made public? Yes, absolutely. The tools shine light on a problem AMD has that Nvidia already solved in hardware. Does the public stand to gain from these tools being made public? Yes. Both in short and long term. The best case scenario is that both AMD and Nvidia provide the tools to quantify problems the other one has, so that they're both forced to fix problems, and the consumers win.
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So what? It is counting frames that are being shown to the user. Don't see what difference different cards would make. But I still can't wait to see other reviewers use something similar
I'll answer that so others will know.
The so what to all this is that they are removing frame rates from CF determining that CF is providing lower frame rates without providing any visual proof to back up the claim that frame rates are actually that slow. Until it can be confirmed that CF frame rates are actually slower (which it cannot do to higher resolution and IQ with CF) then it's a pretty far fetched notion to believe it to be true simply because it's shown on a chart.

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I was asking if you still believe that, as you have been pretty vocal about that in other threads. wink.gif

I don't know why you keep trying to put words into Karlitos mouth?
All those graphs are stock/ factory OCed speeds.

Also,right now is a bad time to buy AMD because people are either realizing AMD gives better value (hence HD7870 went from $220 to $250 , HD7850 went from $180 to $200, etc). The games included are also released. Meanwhile NVIDIA is slashing prices, GTX 660 went from $230ish to $200ish, GTX 650 Ti dropped from $150ish to $120ish, GTX 650 is about $100 now.
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