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Poll Results: 680's or 7970's or something else?

 
  • 60% (59)
    7970 Trifire (non Ghz)
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    Another option that I have not considered...
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Originally Posted by King4x4 View Post

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Originally Posted by sugarhell View Post

You have experience with 3x7970? Or with 3xgtx 680. Remember you came here and you called someone fanboy i reported you your post gone. Then you come here again and you call someone again fanboy. Think then act. He provides real facts and you provide nothing. Quess who is the clever now

I got experiance with both AMD and Nvidia cards and actually squeezed so much performance out of them even to rival titans on heaven and valley.

I bet karlitos still has my score on them.... But thats benchmarks... Gaming is totally different especially on eyefinity. It's just not fun. Spent more time trouble shooting then gaming. Hell I went with a 3770k instead of 3930k because of the same bug that karlitos had...Just to end up switching to nvidia because of the issues I had with eyefinity and quadfire.

When I went surround... It was night and day difference. No DP issues to look at... Lovely DVI... No display sync problems... First game I fired was FC3...I gamed for 4 hours stright... No stutter! Next came up BF3.. Another three hours gaming! I spent a whole weekend just sleeping, eating and gaming!

All of that on 7680x1440 with twin 680 4gb... Added another later with waterblocks and just forgot the headache induced by AMD.

Next plan is to go portrait mode with either crossovers or the pls panels going around.

Now I dare anybody to spit in my face that I am fanboy and he will get the whole book of swear words back.

Hard earned experiance is hard!


Some ppl have issues, while others don't. Just because you have had issues doesn't mean others will, regardless of your claimed experience. Food for thought.
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Originally Posted by King4x4 View Post

I got experiance with both AMD and Nvidia cards and actually squeezed so much performance out of them even to rival titans on heaven and valley.

I bet karlitos still has my score on them.... But thats benchmarks... Gaming is totally different especially on eyefinity. It's just not fun. Spent more time trouble shooting then gaming. Hell I went with a 3770k instead of 3930k because of the same bug that karlitos had...Just to end up switching to nvidia because of the issues I had with eyefinity and quadfire.

When I went surround... It was night and day difference. No DP issues to look at... Lovely DVI... No display sync problems... First game I fired was FC3...I gamed for 4 hours stright... No stutter! Next came up BF3.. Another three hours gaming! I spent a whole weekend just sleeping, eating and gaming!

All of that on 7680x1440 with twin 680 4gb... Added another later with waterblocks and just forgot the headache induced by AMD.

Next plan is to go portrait mode with either crossovers or the pls panels going around.

Now I dare anybody to spit in my face that I am fanboy and he will get the whole book of swear words back.

Hard earned experiance is hard!

I would have to agree the amount of hours I spent trouble shooting my 7970's this year would lead me to highly consider Nvidia next go round.
 
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i recommend X79 system for tri (sli or xfire) or wait for haswell. also, a minimum 1200W in case you want to do quad.

Yeah definitely going for a 3930K...

And looking at like an AX1200 or the seasonic equivalent.

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Originally Posted by frjoethesecond View Post

But trifire is a microstuttering, runt frame producing nightmare. SLI is a lot better, especially with more than 2 cards.

Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk

This is why I was thinking of heading towards the SLI... But nVidia seems soo overpriced for what it is... (Example: Titan...)
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Oh lordey The mis information here, I've got quad 7970s using eyefinity 3* 2560x1440, I don't get microstutter, I don't get random fps dips, All this frame time nonsense is exactly that, And crossfire isn't riddled with problems

My vote's on the 7970s

Do you think that you need all four 7970's or do you think you would get along with the three?

Also what FPS are you getting on games? Say for example on BF3?
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i recommend X79 system for tri (sli or xfire) or wait for haswell. also, a minimum 1200W in case you want to do quad.

I say a minimum of 1200-1350w for TRI and a minumum of 1500w - 1600w for Quad SLI/FIRE.

My Quadfire overclocked in-game (not stressing the CPU by much) would go to 1800w from the wall. Ask tsm106 about his setup.
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A seasonic 1250watt was boarderline for a quad 7950s oced to 1200mhz and a 3770k@4.9ghz.

I actually had it shutoff twice on Heaven on a hot day.

Of course 7950s suck more juice when OCed then a titan so on trifire or tri-sli with a 3930 a good 1200 watt power will be sufficient.
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Originally Posted by SpartanVXL View Post

Those people who call out on frame timings being nonsense either have luck with their cards not having the problem, or are the same type of people who cannot differentiate between CRT's and IPS panels.

And by John Key's necktie OP you'd better be sourcing this hardware from overseas or else somebody in the tax depart is going to get a rise...

Haha true that... Tempted to send them to a mate in MIT, get him to remove the invoices then .pdf them to me, package them up and then send them on to me without the invoices... Customs can't compare the load to NZ prices so they have nothing to go buy... I win biggrin.gif
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Entirely my fault for not noticing his location, but I did mention that the 7970s would always come out on top when price/performance is considered, irrespective of the location. But the reality here is that the pricier option is better in almost every aspect, if not in all of them.

If its any consolation, it cost me US$1320 to get my one. premium products come at a premium pricing, and those who want them have to suck it up, pay for it and enjoy the new product. reality is harsh. trust me, I know.

Thanks for your points... Has given me a tonne to think about. Whilst I agree with your thinking that Titan SLI would be better, if they weren't watercooled... But for airflow problems I will need to watercool. (Modded TJ07 that doesn't have a lot of air going over the motherboard... (One 120mm Fan))... Seems like Tri7970's are the way to go...
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I say a minimum of 1200-1350w for TRI and a minumum of 1500w - 1600w for Quad SLI/FIRE.

My Quadfire overclocked in-game (not stressing the CPU by much) would go to 1800w from the wall. Ask tsm106 about his setup.

Yeesh... So a Seasonic X1250 might not cut it? What have I got myself into? Hahaha

Also mad props for the help everyone! Especially Karlitos, SpartanXVL, Raylene, and the like... Rep for all hahaha :S
Edited by s0up2up - 4/8/13 at 12:09am
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Thread cleaned again. So many "Should I buy Nvidia or ATI" threads turn heated. Just try to keep it cooled down or the thread could get locked.
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I've researched about frame latency, nVidia's FCAT tools and read into reviews from other sites that came after the initial review that every skeptic seems to hate. To be honest I take it all with salt since it does provide a solution to the problems a lot of users have been reporting but comes with the usual media hype. Whether or not the issue is massive is reliant on those who actually have it, which is why it was raised only recently because somebody with the hardware to test it came out with results. If there is an issue the more research/tests done to prove it the better, and if AMD and nvidia can fix the myth then kudos to them.

I don't have the resources to get 7970's and do eyefinity so I have to rely on the experiences I have had with 5xxx and 6xxx xfire cards. From the friends rigs I have worked on who got xfire (6950, 5850, 5770) all of them have switched to either single card or nvidia/SLI to remove the micro-stuttering they consistently got. On the contrary i've seen people on this forum with 5850's and 6970's running games to and acceptable standard for them absolutely fine.

I've also been to LAN's were people were running 120Hz monitors with V-sync, sure it looked smooth as butter but did the input feel smooth?When I hopped on their rigs to give their monitors a whirl my precision went through the floor. I disable v-sync in drivers because the input latency it puts on my mouse makes it feel like the sensor is tracking through maple syrup. It's one of the reasons I still game on my CRT and use my lcd panels for everything else, no ghosting, blur or significant tearing running at uncapped frames.

EDIT: Just so you know, I voted for the 7970's simply because for those high requirements they are the obvious choice to pick in performance terms. Whether or not the OP gets the issues mentioned with xfire drivers and micro-stuttering is dependent on if hes lucky to not get the issue or not notice it at all


I never really felt the input lag from Vsync however i do find it smoother to use an internal frame cap rather then vsync itself, Most of the games i play after 12 hour shifts have a console accessible so i'll use a command like "/console maxfps 120" and it internally limits it.
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Yeah definitely going for a 3930K...

And looking at like an AX1200 or the seasonic equivalent.
This is why I was thinking of heading towards the SLI... But nVidia seems soo overpriced for what it is... (Example: Titan...)
Do you think that you need all four 7970's or do you think you would get along with the three?

Also what FPS are you getting on games? Say for example on BF3?

when i did play Bf3, I had max on 32 player maps and didn't drop below 90, However 64 player maps are more cpu dependant and i don't have a hexcore, As for the fourth, The fourth lets me use Super sampling without dropping below my ideal framerate, It's just that little extra oomph for 4x Driver SS, I prefer Super sampling over other methods, Just like some people prefer red over blue, Etc.

If i wasn't going for super sampling and using traditional ingame Aa, the fourth card wouldn't be needed.
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In my opinion question:'' Buy AMD or Nvidia, which is better Nvidia or AMD.'' etc is are adding wood in fanboy's campfire. Currently, OCN have enough info to the question would not be necessary. When you finally start to talk about the really important things and stop behaving like little children?
Sorry my english!

Yeah for sure, you are right there is tonnes of information for the traditional 7970 vs 680/ 670 or even their SLI/ CFX counterparts... There is less about Trifire and the like... And that was only a part of the question anyway...

It was more a question of what do I need to drive a 7680x1440 ressie, and what would be better currently to drive. (Ignoring Red vs Green camp bias and the like.)

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I never really felt the input lag from Vsync however i do find it smoother to use an internal frame cap rather then vsync itself, Most of the games i play after 12 hour shifts have a console accessible so i'll use a command like "/console maxfps 120" and it internally limits it.
when i did play Bf3, I had max on 32 player maps and didn't drop below 90, However 64 player maps are more cpu dependant and i don't have a hexcore, As for the fourth, The fourth lets me use Super sampling without dropping below my ideal framerate, It's just that little extra oomph for 4x Driver SS, I prefer Super sampling over other methods, Just like some people prefer red over blue, Etc.

If i wasn't going for super sampling and using traditional ingame Aa, the fourth card wouldn't be needed.

If you don't mind me asking... What is your ideal FPS? 90?
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Thread cleaned again. So many "Should I buy Nvidia or ATI" threads turn heated. Just try to keep it cooled down or the thread could get locked.

Thanks for the cleaning... Arg I hate the whole Red vs Green crap... Why can't people stop being unbias and help someone by answering the question...
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The Problem s0up2up is mainly people disregard experiance if it's bad and just accept the good only.

I forgot to ask you... What screens are you using? If you are using screens with a dedicated Displayport that might allievate most of the problems of eyefinity since from experiance the major problems with Eyefinity at 7680x1440 are partially related to DP integration.

However, If you are going with korean screens with DVI I highly recommend only going with nvidia and Tri-Sli 670 4GB to lessen the initial cost of the system (~$300 difference with at max %5 difference in performance).
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Intel i7 3930k @4.4ghz@1.44v Asrock X79 Fataility Champion 3xInno3d GTX 780 with Full Nickel EK Waterblocks Gskill RipjawsX 4x4GB@2400mhz 11-11-11-31 
Hard DriveCoolingMonitorKeyboard
2xSamsung 830 256gb Custom H2O - 3x XSPC RX360 with EK Blocks Surround Gaming 3x1440@96hz (X-Star) Cooler Master Trigger Red Caps 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic 1250 watt Danger Den Double Wide 21 Roccat Kone+ Creative ZX (Incoming) 
Audio
Roccat Kave 5.1 Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4930k Asus Extreme Black Edition Sapphire R9 290x Sapphire R9 290x 
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Sapphire R9 290x Sapphire R9 290x Gskil TridentX 2400mhz Samsung 830 256GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 500GB EK Supramacy 4x EK Blocks 6x EK XTX480 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EK XT360 Windows 8.1 BenQ 3201 32in 4k IPS Qnix 32in 1440 MVA 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Qnix 32in 1440 MVA Coolermaster Storm Trigger 2x Seasonic 1250watt Case Labs TH10 
MouseAudioAudio
Roccat Kone Creative ZX AKG K7XX 
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