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Poll Results: 680's or 7970's or something else?

 
  • 60% (59)
    7970 Trifire (non Ghz)
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    680 4Gb Tri-SLI
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    Another option that I have not considered...
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The Problem s0up2up is mainly people disregard experiance if it's bad and just accept the good only.

Yeah that's true... Is the same with most things I guess.... Bias is a hell of a thing to try and get out of people sometime...
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I forgot to ask you... What screens are you using? If you are using screens with a dedicated Displayport that might allievate most of the problems of eyefinity since from experiance the major problems with Eyefinity at 7680x1440 are partially related to DP integration.

However, If you are going with korean screens with DVI I highly recommend only going with nvidia and Tri-Sli 670 4GB to lessen the initial cost of the system (~$300 difference with at max %5 difference in performance).

Good question... At the moment looking at Dell 2713HM's when they go on sale in NZ again. Quite often go on sale at 30% off making them somewhat reasonable... That coupled with a vastly superior warranty, less shipping and handling and not having to worry about being potentially slapped with 'importing' tarrifs with being 3 of them into NZ... And It just makes sense to buy Dell compared w/ the Korean Monitors.
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Going with Dells isn't a bad thing compared to koreans if you are going with AMD.

The converters that you use to convert the DP signal to DVI each cost alone $100 with no shipping (Got mine used for $50 each!) so lets say the koreans cost $500 with import tax add another $130 (with shipping) and you get $630 nearly close to a Dell with warrenty and direct DP.

2x7970 will be sufficient to power three screens.... A third card is better for more of a punch so you can max most settings.

Bottom line is as follows:
If you save %20 with full costs added go with AMD... if anything happens you can cut it and sell them cheap and don't make a major loss.

Thats what happened with my Quadfire.... Swapped two of the cards with waterblocks for a 690 (Sale pending for $900) Sold a third (with no waterblock) for $290 and a fourth I am keeping as backup.

Bought two used 680 4GB as a test for $850 with shipping... tested and everything went perfect... Bought a new card for $600 (Been hunting for a better part of a month no deals even with titan in the market... Only ones being sold were 2GB). So you can say I bought each for $480... another $450 for waterblocks and backplates and I am happily gaming at nearly Titan SLI water cooled performance at nearly $600 difference and broke even with my switch.
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I would hold off as long as I could. I would try to get a 7 series Nvidia card. The saying is you get what you pay for is true. Get what your pocket will allow, don't go for the price per performance.

I would get three 680 4GB if it has to be now. You can slap them in & don't have to worry about nothing most of the time. As with AMD, it will be some problems of some sort. Screen tearing, flash player problems, driver, crossfire issues, etc....

Most people won't tell you the truth about their situation as they can't change theirs. I'm sure you'll get good performance with two 680's @ 1440P.
Edited by PatrickCrowely - 4/8/13 at 6:06am
 
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Originally Posted by King4x4 View Post

Going with Dells isn't a bad thing compared to koreans if you are going with AMD.

The converters that you use to convert the DP signal to DVI each cost alone $100 with no shipping (Got mine used for $50 each!) so lets say the koreans cost $500 with import tax add another $130 (with shipping) and you get $630 nearly close to a Dell with warrenty and direct DP.
To be honest with you if you didn't see how much a DP to DVI converter from Sapphire costs it's only 30 bucks each.
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I would hold off as long as I could. I would try to get a 7 series Nvidia card. The saying is you get what you pay for is true. Get what your pocket will allow, don't go for the price per performance.

I would get three 680 4GB if it has to be now. You can slap them in & don't have to worry about nothing most of the time. As with AMD, it will be some problems of some sort. Screen tearing, flash player problems, driver, crossfire issues, etc....

Most people won't tell you the truth about their situation as they can't change theirs. I'm sure you'll get good performance with two 680's @ 1440P.
This is the sort of reply people will get from people with Nvidia rigs. Seriously, dude? While i don't snub Nvidia at all i am AMD fanboy at heart and because WE'RE HERE. Overclocking performance matters
Why is it a problem when AMD release slightly bugged drivers and not when Nvidia releases seriously flawed drivers that killed many cards? Sure RMA is not a problem but it IS downtime.
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I would hold off as long as I could. I would try to get a 7 series Nvidia card. The saying is you get what you pay for is true. Get what your pocket will allow, don't go for the price per performance.

I would get three 680 4GB if it has to be now. You can slap them in & don't have to worry about nothing most of the time. As with AMD, it will be some problems of some sort. Screen tearing, flash player problems, driver, crossfire issues, etc....

Most people won't tell you the truth about their situation as they can't change theirs. I'm sure you'll get good performance with two 680's @ 1440P.
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I would hold off as long as I could. I would try to get a 7 series Nvidia card. The saying is you get what you pay for is true. Get what your pocket will allow, don't go for the price per performance.

I would get three 680 4GB if it has to be now. You can slap them in & don't have to worry about nothing most of the time. As with AMD, it will be some problems of some sort. Screen tearing, flash player problems, driver, crossfire issues, etc....

Most people won't tell you the truth about their situation as they can't change theirs. I'm sure you'll get good performance with two 680's @ 1440P.

i agree . . .

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Yeah for sure, you are right there is tonnes of information for the traditional 7970 vs 680/ 670 or even their SLI/ CFX counterparts... There is less about Trifire and the like... And that was only a part of the question anyway...

It was more a question of what do I need to drive a 7680x1440 ressie, and what would be better currently to drive. (Ignoring Red vs Green camp bias and the like.)
If you don't mind me asking... What is your ideal FPS? 90?
Thanks for the cleaning... Arg I hate the whole Red vs Green crap... Why can't people stop being unbias and help someone by answering the question...


anything above 90 is good, But i prefer 120
I still say the 7970s, Remember the 680 4GB can't use all 4Gb because it's bandwidth limited, It was pointed out numerous times, However the 7970 has no problem spreading the bandwidth lovin' around with it's rediculous memory bandwidth it can well and truly make full use of all 3 gigglbytes of Vram


As for everyone else here, Seriously there is nothing wrong with crossfire and eyefinity, AMD drivers are fine, Stop spreading the misinformation not only are these cheaper but they are faster and better suited to the job, The titan while it may be better then the 7970 is twice the price and upwards, the 680 while a fine card is not suited to surround resolutions due to the aforementioned problem and we aren't talking 5760x1080, We are talking big boy's 7K* 1440.

Like it or lump it, This is something the 7970 was designed for.
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To be honest with you if you didn't see how much a DP to DVI converter from Sapphire costs it's only 30 bucks each.
This is the sort of reply people will get from people with Nvidia rigs. Seriously, dude? While i don't snub Nvidia at all i am AMD fanboy at heart and because WE'RE HERE. Overclocking performance matters
Why is it a problem when AMD release slightly bugged drivers and not when Nvidia releases seriously flawed drivers that killed many cards? Sure RMA is not a problem but it IS downtime.

For one I have Nvidia & AMD Rigs.... I'm speaking from experience.... I tend to buy what makes life enjoayable for me, not as a bargin. My 7970's are always a problem, so much so they're in the garage. Maybe I'll put them with an i5 or something, but I'm not wasting my time where as i can game when i get home. When I leave my office, I go home & game. When I had my 7970's in. It was a problem with every other game, every other day, besides that. you have to bother others with the problems as well...

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To be honest with you if you didn't see how much a DP to DVI converter from Sapphire costs it's only 30 bucks each.
This is the sort of reply people will get from people with Nvidia rigs. Seriously, dude? While i don't snub Nvidia at all i am AMD fanboy at heart and because WE'RE HERE. Overclocking performance matters
Why is it a problem when AMD release slightly bugged drivers and not when Nvidia releases seriously flawed drivers that killed many cards? Sure RMA is not a problem but it IS downtime.

Thank you for confirming you know squat regarding Active Converters.

That $30 convert ONLY WORKS FOR 1080.

You need an Active USB powered converter that cost $90+ to power 1440.

Now please go away and answer my previous question regarding 4GB use on 3x1440.
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anything above 90 is good, But i prefer 120
I still say the 7970s, Remember the 680 4GB can't use all 4Gb because it's bandwidth limited, It was pointed out numerous times, However the 7970 has no problem spreading the bandwidth lovin' around with it's rediculous memory bandwidth it can well and truly make full use of all 3 gigglbytes of Vram


As for everyone else here, Seriously there is nothing wrong with crossfire and eyefinity, AMD drivers are fine, Stop spreading the misinformation not only are these cheaper but they are faster and better suited to the job, The titan while it may be better then the 7970 is twice the price and upwards, the 680 while a fine card is not suited to surround resolutions due to the aforementioned problem and we aren't talking 5760x1080, We are talking big boy's 7K* 1440.

Like it or lump it, This is something the 7970 was designed for.

Bandwidth limitation... Oh god... This is true at 1080 - 1440 - 3x1080.... 3x1440 is totally different and you gonna need the 4gb for it to work.

I am speaking from experiance from using 4x7950.... 1x690 and 3x680 4GB on my rig. Not from some benchmark showcasing irrelevant memory use on 3x1080 where 2GB is sufficient.

I will bold this to just highlight it so everybody can read it.

7680x1440 requires 4GB on Kepler minimum.

Only cards that will work for Nvidia are 680 4GB and Titans.

AMD 7970s and 7950 are sufficient at 3GB for this res due to sufficient memory bandwidth

Nvidia require a minimum of 4GB buffer or you are going into a lag fest
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How can you say the difference from GTX 680 2 GB to 4 GB at 3 x 1440p when you only had the 4 GB versions? Thats irrevelant.

are you trying to justify your purchase on this thread?
So you are sure? But you don't know??

I had three 670's at 1440P & yes the performance was good except when I bought Sleeping Dogs. The 2GB wasn't enough, so I ended up buying two 7970's which were a disaster., so yes I'm sure cause I experienced it.
 
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