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Hey guys !

Yeah I know, there are millions of threads about overclocking this CPU. But that's not about the CPU that I'm worried. It's the Motherboard, my Asus M4A785TD-V Evo and more precisely, the CPU voltage. I'm starting this thread, because I haven't seen anyone overclocking with this MoBo and CPU configuration.

Using AMD Overdrive to OC in windows and Cinebench and Prime95 to benchmark/stress my OC, I've reached 3.8Ghz (3792Mhz) with 1.4V Vcore.

The thing is, I can't seem to get a stable voltage, or even to get the Vcore I desire. When setting it up in the BIOS, the voltage will top around 1.392V (Even if set at 1.45V) and will drop to somewhere around 1.35 on load... Using AMD Overdrive will get me the desired voltage on load (1.4V), but with HW, the maximum reached Vcore shown was 1.52V! My temps are quite on the limit with my 212 Evo, (54C max in-game, 60C after an hour of Prime95, large FFTs) with a 22C ambient temp.

Until now, there is no sign of unstability, even it the temperature reaches 60C with Prime, it stays there. Maybe if I re-seat my 212 Evo I might get a few degrees less? I admit, I might have put too much thermal paste (maybe.. a full grain of rice) And I've used the one that came with the cooler. Oh and, it's certainly not my case that could cause a high temperature, my HAF 912 has 2 200mm fan, an exhaust and an intake one, and a part of the drive bay is removed for better airflow.
Also, LLC and Cool'n'quiet are still activated. Should I disable them both?

Any advice on how to have a more stable overclocking voltage, and maybe on how to reach a slightly higher clock?

I've also joined a screenshot of CPU-Z and Hardware Monitor.



Thanks in advance for your answers!

Paul
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post #2 of 34
Yes,you must disable ALL power saving features in the BIOS,including the FAN control settings.
BTW,you should use the BIOS to Overclock. Everything.And you must either change your mobo
or at least put a fan blowing air on the VRM area.


EDIT. Sorry,your board is fine. Scratch that. My bad. Lack of sleep etc.
Edited by Grmadness - 4/7/13 at 9:19am
   
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But your PSU is struggling to deliver the required power... Especially with a GPU as power hungry as yours.
Edited by Grmadness - 4/7/13 at 9:26am
   
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My b50 runs at 1.5 volt and 3700-3800. When you want a higher cpu clock you need to raise the nb frequency as well. I also suggest you to download the turion power control. You can set some more parameter and also the nb frequency and the rampup and rampdown time. Look in my sig the benchmark with 3dmark.
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My b50 runs at 1.5 volt and 3700-3800. When you want a higher cpu clock you need to raise the nb frequency as well. I also suggest you to download the turion power control. You can set some more parameter and also the nb frequency and the rampup and rampdown time. Look in my sig the benchmark with 3dmark.

Sorry,but no. NB Freq will give you a good bump in performance,most deffinately, but always at the expense of CPU OC headroom. And yes,I prefer to lose 100MHz from CPU clock speed if I am to gain 500MHz NB Freq more.
Edited by Grmadness - 4/7/13 at 9:45am
   
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Of course yes. Without the bump on nb the mhz stick at 3600-3700 mhz. But maybe my pc is a bit different? Btw. My nb is at 3000-3100 mhz. I really recommend to use turion power control. It gives you good control over your cpu and it's free.
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But your PSU is struggling to deliver the required power... Especially with a GPU as power hungry as yours.

Thanks for the quick replies!

So... what PSU should I get? a 650w, or more than that?

Also.. you suggest I start OC'ing the NB as well? What can I expect from this overclocking? Just wondering!
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Don't listen to the other guy. To get further with your cpu clock you need to up nb frequency and volts. Of course when you go further it's getting hotter but it's not the question?
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Don't listen to the other guy. To get further with your cpu clock you need to up nb frequency and volts. Of course when you go further it's getting hotter but it's not the question?
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Don't listen to the other guy. To get further with your cpu clock you need to up nb frequency and volts. Of course when you go further it's getting hotter but it's not the question?

I've searched in the BIOS and.. there is nowhere to change the NB frequency. I can change its voltage, and it's multiplier I think, but its frequency... Nothing. I'm not too sure as well if increasing the HyperTransport frequency would help anything
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