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post #21 of 31
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i see you're rocking the i7 3630QM too and im sure your not bottlenecked so why would i be bottle necked with the i5 option?

I've recommended this laptop before on price, but I do have some apprehensions about it because I once owned a Toshiba SLi1 [SLI 8600mGT/T7250 2GHz] Granted they don't match up exactly. Even the i5 version offers a much better CPU all around, but with AFR [Alternate Frame Rendering] it still can lag in setting up frames for two GPUs. This will result in the CPU being a source of microstutter [irregular increases in frame latency]. The quad is a much better option in this regard, preventing a source of poor graphics performance. I would get the quad in every case if the budget allows.
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NOOOOOOOO, never get the GT650 SLI you will suffer every minute trying to get them work,just get the GTX660m after some overclocking it can run most new games @ ultra settings @ 1366x768 so dont get the GT650 SLI
     
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NOOOOOOOO, never get the GT650 SLI you will suffer every minute trying to get them work,just get the GTX660m after some overclocking it can run most new games @ ultra settings @ 1366x768 so dont get the GT650 SLI

The 660m is just a higher clocked 650m, so the difference is marginal. Dual nvidia cards does have its advantages. You could use the 2nd GPU as a physx card or you could try SLiAA in games where normal AA doesn't work.

For $900 or $1050, there is nothing close to the Y500 performance within another $100. I'd actually downgrade to something with a GT 730m or HD 7730m and save myself $200-$300 before I'd get anything with a GTX 660m.
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NOOOOOOOO, never get the GT650 SLI you will suffer every minute trying to get them work,just get the GTX660m after some overclocking it can run most new games @ ultra settings @ 1366x768 so dont get the GT650 SLI

Why do you say so? headscratch.gif , Crossfire is different from SLI ... And to those people using their 8xxx/9xxx GT experience to compare SLI now "2013", you guys should talk to people with SLI now, because SLI of today is almost the same as using a single card. I have been with SLI 660's on my main rig, and i have had no issues what so ever. To me, this is a no brainer.. y500 definitely. I have the 660m and i will switch it for the 650m SLI..
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... And to those people using their 8xxx/9xxx GT experience to compare SLI now "2013", you guys should talk to people with SLI now, because SLI of today is almost the same as using a single card.

So the point doesn't get lost, I was mostly focused on the CPUs role in relation to the GPU and the increased workload on the CPU when two GPUs are involved. This is why the quad is better suited to systems pairing dual GPUs.

The only thing a pair of 8600m GT have in common with a pair of GT 650m is the 128bit memory bus. It is somewhat relevant when dealing with 1080p monitor. After the issue of the CPU feeding frames to GPUs the memory bus is going to be the weakest link in the system, Nothing more than a observation really. Time will get the best of all hardware, I'm just pointing out where the issues that will creep in will come from first with the Y500.
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Why do you say so? headscratch.gif , Crossfire is different from SLI ... And to those people using their 8xxx/9xxx GT experience to compare SLI now "2013", you guys should talk to people with SLI now, because SLI of today is almost the same as using a single card. I have been with SLI 660's on my main rig, and i have had no issues what so ever. To me, this is a no brainer.. y500 definitely. I have the 660m and i will switch it for the 650m SLI..
i understand i understand my friend but i mean only the GT650SLI has problems(my cousins own 2 of these Y500)both have problems because
1-the cards are not using an SLI bridge (only PCI SLI)
2-the drivers are very old(because you need to use lenovo's drivers)
3-and overclocked single GTX660m will be a much better option than an SLI GT650(faster)

I use crossfire and SLI on daily bases both have evolved so much but the SLI GT650m is JUST an EPIC fail!


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hmm so looks like the i5 gt 650m sli combo won't work and i can't afford the i7 gt 650m sli combo so how about the gt 750m i7 combo here? http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/builder.workflow:Enter?sb=:000001C9:0000C50A:
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hmm so looks like the i5 gt 650m sli combo won't work and i can't afford the i7 gt 650m sli combo so how about the gt 750m i7 combo here? http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/builder.workflow:Enter?sb=:000001C9:0000C50A:

I can't view the link.. Can you take a snap shot of the specs?
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Samsung  Samsung  Samsung  Seagate 750GB 7200RPM 
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Blu-Ray reader  Sager Cooling + CM SF-19 USB 3.0 Windows 7 Ultimate X64 18.4 1920x1080 Glossy 16:9 Plastic covered  
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Gigabyte wirless 300W+8 cells battery SagerNP8180 Gigabyte wireless 
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Table ultrasone pro 550 + FiiO E7++ on board 5.1 soun... 
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i7 3630qm Lenovo HM76 Nvidia GTX660m 8GB 1600mhz 
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WD Blue 750GB Blu-Ray Reader Stock Windows 7 
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1366x768 Internal Screen 
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