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Congrats on the de-lidding thumb.gif

Those resistors are extremely close to the edge. It wouldn't take much to render these CPU's useless. Also, I would highly recommending NOT doing the vise / wood method due to the resistors being so close.

The Ivy's have no resistors around the CPU die, but one hit in either direction on the A6/A8/A10 would more than likely take a resistor out.
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Congrats on the de-lidding thumb.gif

Those resistors are extremely close to the edge. It wouldn't take much to render these CPU's useless. Also, I would highly recommending NOT doing the vise / wood method due to the resistors being so close.

The Ivy's have no resistors around the CPU die, but one hit in either direction on the A6/A8/A10 would more than likely take a resistor out.

That's why I went Razor... It is absolutely safe if you know what you're doing, and definitely, the only method to use if you plan on delidding a chip that's unknown as to what's under the lid thumb.gif
   
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That looks great, I really feel to do this with my 750k l0l

Could we get that video you mentioned? Would be of great help smile.gif

And did you find any software that correctly measures the temp? At the moment I'm trusting my BIOS/Asrock AXTU/OCCT/Speedfan. Coretemp, HWmonitor and even AMD Overdrive give really erratic readings.

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Oh, by the way, HWMonitor is creeping bonkers, smile.gif

A flat probe attached right to the sides of the die reports 47ºC under heavy load, while HWMonitor is reporting 74ºC. Needless to say, the system doesn't shut down, so there's absolutely no way it's running like that, as thermal shutdown is 71.5ºC.

There are usually 2 different ways of measuring temp in AMD CPUs, if I recall correctly. One is the case temperature and the other the actual die temperature. I think the case temperature is the one with a maximum threshold, and is < the die temp. Besides that, the most accurate way AMD CPUs have to measure temp is a relative value, that is how much we have until we reach the limit. There was a lot of info in AMD docs, a member of this board pointed me to those docs, but can't recall who was.

If your CPU is at 71º, and the heatsink is much cooler, improper heat transfer can be the cause. I guess CoreTemp shows the same value, right?
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That looks great, I really feel to do this with my 750k l0l

Could we get that video you mentioned? Would be of great help smile.gif

LOL THE VIDEO. I had totally forgotten about it!!! The YT upload crashed, I got mad, and never re-uploaded it biggrin.gif I'l process it again, and once it's done I'll post the link smile.gif

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And did you find any software that correctly measures the temp? At the moment I'm trusting my BIOS/Asrock AXTU/OCCT/Speedfan. Coretemp, HWmonitor and even AMD Overdrive give really erratic readings.

Thanks

Not really, I stuck a NTC probe to the very side of the die, saw it never went past 47ºC under very heavy load, and didn't even bother to find anything to monitor it.
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There are usually 2 different ways of measuring temp in AMD CPUs, if I recall correctly. One is the case temperature and the other the actual die temperature. I think the case temperature is the one with a maximum threshold, and is < the die temp. Besides that, the most accurate way AMD CPUs have to measure temp is a relative value, that is how much we have until we reach the limit. There was a lot of info in AMD docs, a member of this board pointed me to those docs, but can't recall who was.

If your CPU is at 71º, and the heatsink is much cooler, improper heat transfer can be the cause. I guess CoreTemp shows the same value, right?

HWMonitor reports 75ºC under heavy load. SpeedFan can't get a reading. AMD Overdrive reports 5ºC. AIDA64 reports 35ºC. CoreTemp reports 35ºC. EasyTune6 reports 41ºC. The BIOS reads 14ºC just after restarting it, and quickly climbs into the mid 30s.

The sensors on this thing are flippin' crazy biggrin.gif
   
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LOL THE VIDEO. I had totally forgotten about it!!! The YT upload crashed, I got mad, and never re-uploaded it biggrin.gif I'l process it again, and once it's done I'll post the link smile.gif
Not really, I stuck a NTC probe to the very side of the die, saw it never went past 47ºC under very heavy load, and didn't even bother to find anything to monitor it.
HWMonitor reports 75ºC under heavy load. SpeedFan can't get a reading. AMD Overdrive reports 5ºC. AIDA64 reports 35ºC. CoreTemp reports 35ºC. EasyTune6 reports 41ºC. The BIOS reads 14ºC just after restarting it, and quickly climbs into the mid 30s.

The sensors on this thing are flippin' crazy biggrin.gif
I'd trust CoreTemp. Have you tried OpenHardwareMonitor, too? tongue.gif
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I'd trust CoreTemp

On their own forums, lots of people are reporting similar issues, aka, Trinity temp sensors being completely crazy in CoreTemp.

Plus, 35ºC full load on a NH-L9a is something I have a hard time believing tongue.gif
   
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Cool, look forward to seeing it smile.gif
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If you do try to delid your Fx-xxxx guess i'm the only one thats going to say it'd be safer to just get some pliers, like one thread i seen read http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?289389-I-just-delidded-my-newly-bought-FX-8320-PICS, and put it top down in a pan while holding it, but rather than what he did, use a probe thermometer, put it in the pan, wait til it hits around 365, put cpu in the pan IHS down for five seconds while holding it with the pliers, pull out, and try to pull the IHS off with a pair of precision tweezers would honestly try to get another set of hands to help then after that, the solder thats left is going to be the problem, could lap it as far down as you can, use some liquid paste, and that should work, honestly, if i got it off, i'd try to post, if it actually posted, i'd stack a few coins/folded tin foil to get past post, if it hit windows and loaded, then, i'd do the lapping and liquid paste, but its all a risk.
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