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post #1 of 68
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Just trolling ebay and it's still around 600 dollars. Why is it that high? The 980x gets killed in single threaded by a 3770k and is only 8-10 percent better in multithreaded apps. Then their is the 3930k. Its also cheaper then what most 980s are going for.
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post #2 of 68
Yea i paid $600 for mine last year. Still a good processor though.
 
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still an x series proc, look at how much some of the s775 cpu's with the x go for still.

used processors go for about how usefull they are, perhaps people dont want or have the money to go mobo/cpu/ram, and just want to do cpu

when i got my q9550 when i could have gotten a 2600k for like 100$ more lol, i just didnt have the money to do all the parts at once so i got what I could smile.gif
     
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post #4 of 68
Old Core2Quads are still expensive because they're a) not made anymore and b) an upgrade path still for people that don't want to replace their mobo and want to upgrade from Core2Duo.
post #5 of 68
980X cinebench 11.5 stock = 8.9
3770K cinebench 11.5 stock = 7.6

OC 980X to 4.4GHz, cine ~ 11.8
OC 3770K to 4.8GHz, cine ~ 10.4

Still 13% faster.

The 980X is also old, fits on old systems without a platform upgrade, no one in their right mind would buy one for a new rig right now since 3930Ks are out. X58 also has some better features compared to Z77.

Basically the costly part about the 980X is the black sticker, has always been. Ebay has i7 970s for a bit over 300 bucks, same performance as 980X priced only a bit above the 3770K.
 
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post #6 of 68
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Just trolling ebay and it's still around 600 dollars. Why is it that high? The 980x gets killed in single threaded by a 3770k and is only 8-10 percent better in multithreaded apps. Then their is the 3930k. Its also cheaper then what most 980s are going for.

Because 980X like my QX9650 is a re-labeled Xeon, which means it is more reliable long-term. My QX9650 has logged more than 20,000 hours of operation since March 2008, and it can still overclock to 3.95 GHz at max Intel safe recommended voltage of 1.3685.

How many not Extreme CPUS can do that after 20000 hours of operation? Not many I'd wager.
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Because 980X like my QX9650 is a re-labeled Xeon, which means it is more reliable long-term. My QX9650 has logged more than 20,000 hours of operation since March 2008, and it can still overclock to 3.95 GHz at max Intel safe recommended voltage of 1.3685.

How many not Extreme CPUS can do that after 20000 hours of operation? Not many I'd wager.

Pretty much all of them.

Extreme CPUs are Xeon chips that didn't pass the binning process for Xeons assuming that they were binned to be xeons in the first place. If they were they're chips that are most likely leakier, if they didn't then there's no knowing what standards they had to get. The QX9650 isn't even LGA771, it's LGA775.

The point is that a normal CPU will still be just as fine after that amount of time assuming you've stayed within acceptable voltage ranges and also assuming that the chip wasn't defective in the first place.
 
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The point is that a normal CPU will still be just as fine after that amount of time assuming you've stayed within acceptable voltage ranges and also assuming that the chip wasn't defective in the first place.

I don't agree.

Common (non-extreme) chips on high overclocks from day 1 tend to degrade starting from 6 months of ownership. By two years of working overclocked, they are very degraded (There are exceptions though).

On the contrary, my QX 9650 still overclocks to near 4GHz at the maximum recommended safe Intel voltage of 1.3685 which means that it has suffered little degradation during the past five years & 20,000 hours of operation. This is why my CPU cost $1k to buy.
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I don't agree.

Common (non-extreme) chips on high overclocks from day 1 tend to degrade starting from 6 months of ownership. By two years of working overclocked, they are very degraded (There are exceptions though).

On the contrary, my QX 9650 still overclocks to near 4GHz at the maximum recommended safe Intel voltage of 1.3685 which means that it has suffered little degradation during the past five years. This is why my CPU cost $1k to buy.

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I don't agree.

Common (non-extreme) chips on high overclocks from day 1 tend to degrade starting from 6 months of ownership. By two years of working overclocked, they are very degraded (There are exceptions though).

On the contrary, my QX 9650 still overclocks to near 4GHz at the maximum recommended safe Intel voltage of 1.3685 which means that it has suffered little degradation during the past five years & 20,000 hours of operation. This is why my CPU cost $1k to buy.

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The only CPUs that I've seen degrade from reasonable voltages after a long period are SB based. The same would also happen to SB Xeons if they could be OCd.

There's literally no proof of your 6 months claim, you also forget that extreme chips are just normal chips with a bumped up multi (sometimes unlocked). They're not different in any meaningful way other than maybe sometimes overclocking a bit higher due to binning but that's very much questionable as well.

Your CPU cost so much because it had a black sticker, an unlocked multi and it came out a few months before cheaper CPUs based on the same exact dies.
 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7 5960X @ 4.8GHz] [Rampage V Extreme] [Titan 1400MHz (1500MHz bench)] [Various] 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
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