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post #31 of 141
I would really suggest you save up. I know it may seem like were all biased or because were on a computer enthusiast forum, of course were going to tell you to get something better. But I've been in your situation. I was 14 when I built my first system, and I cheaped out on a lot of my parts.

Its better to save up and get something better later, than have something now and regret it later.
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post #32 of 141
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I've done some research, and there is one other card I could afford...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GTX550Ti-192-Bit-Ready-Graphics/dp/B004S5CCP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365519640&sr=8-1&keywords=GT+550
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post #33 of 141
I understand your worries about ebay, but at the same time, you shouldn't be scared at all, paypal and ebay are beyond amazing at protecting their buyers in the first place. The reason you are going to find an older, higher end card for cheap is because there are newer cards, so someone who is an enthusiast will just sell their older cards at great prices so they can just get rid of them and be done with it so they can buy a newer one. I always sell my old hardware and electronics at HUGE losses, because, obviously the more time you spend on selling something, the more time you are wasting.


So, you could get a card on ebay, the buyers usually have a 14-30 day return policy and if you buy from a seller with high ratings , there is nothing to fear.



I will join in on saying PC gaming is not something that should be done on the cheap because you end up losing a lot of the whole experience, there is nothing more frustrating than trying to get a game to run no low end hardware.

My thoughts have always been, if the budget for the computer is under 600$ total, console gaming should be the way to go, save some money, and every game will run just fine without tweaking. Consoles are selling like hotcakes now because of the next gens on the horizon.
 
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post #34 of 141
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Wow, thanks for the detailed answer!

I'll do some research on Ebay, if a brand new GTX 550Ti is £86 ($131), then it must be really cheap secondhand.
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post #35 of 141
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Originally Posted by jackblack644 View Post

I've done some research, and there is one other card I could afford...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GTX550Ti-192-Bit-Ready-Graphics/dp/B004S5CCP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365519640&sr=8-1&keywords=GT+550

Just out of curiosity is there a reason you are only looking at nvidia cards? As far as I know AMD is making better stuff at these low price brackets right now, cards like the Radeon 6670, 7750, and the 7770.
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post #36 of 141
^kind of ninjad me, amd all the way for this, I suggest the 7770ghz, or maybe an older, higher end 6000 series card.

Alternately if you were looking at that 550ti, there is the 7770ghz, on newegg there is a msi 7770ghz for 119 with a 25$ rebate that brings it down to 95, then it also comes with far cry 3.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687

new, warranty, and everything.
 
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post #37 of 141
I know it's been said a thousand times, but don't get the gt 630.


I have an EVGA GTX 560 (non-ti) that's factory overclocked I could sell you, send me a PM. However, it's probably not worth the shipping from Canada.

Honestly, just get a card from last year. That 550ti is still WAY better than the 630.
post #38 of 141
The first gaming card I had was a Radeon 6450 for £50 and I thought that was good when I first got it, Played Mass Effect 3 and even Minecraft! Soo much lag (ME3: 17 fps on lowest and minecraft: 30-50fps). So I went and saved up for the MSI 6870, its performance is great for all the games I wanted to play, Like Need For Speed: Most Wanted 2012 (50-70 fps depending if its raining or not)
My 15th birthday is coming up at the end of this week. I'm getting a new case and a whole bunch of new Coolers, And a few Xbox 360 bits cause I'm reviving the console to be used to watch films through Windows Media Center.
Save up and get one of the GPU's they recommend, You will never go back on what they have said thumb.gif
EDIT: A question that is bugging me is, why that good CPU cooler for that older CPU?
Edited by NeoReaper - 4/9/13 at 8:41am
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post #39 of 141
You can get a HD6850 for £70-£80 on eBay...

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Its 95% faster than a GT640 and 50% faster than the GTX550...
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post #40 of 141
My friend, the sad truth is that PC gaming is a pretty expensive hobby to start up. Once you have a good computer, games can be had for better deals usually, but until then you're probably just wasting your time trying to upgrade an already outdated system on such a tight budget.

In all honesty you should just game on consoles until you can save up like $600 to build a decent PC :/
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