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Google has spent the past couple years facing down antitrust accusations in Europe for pushing its web services over those of competitors. But, just as that case is coming to a close, the New York Times now reports that new anti-competitive allegations have been levied against Android. This new complaint was filed by a group called Fairsearch -- whose members include old EU foes Microsoft and Nokia, plus Oracle and a host of travel booking websites -- and claims that Google's using Android as a way to deceive consumers into using Google apps instead of competitors' software. The problem, as Fairsearch sees it, is that Google forces OEMs who use Android to unfairly place apps like YouTube and Gmail in prominent places on the desktop. Of course, this new complaint is just the beginning, so we'll have to wait and see what the European Commission's investigation into the matter uncovers, and how the folks in Mountain View respond.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/08/eu-antitrust-complaint-google-android/



As with the MS case, what goes for one, goes for all wink.gif

And it can honestly be said that Google DOES push it's services onto Android ahead of others. However, they don't intentionally gimp other's services like Microsoft did. So, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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i cant see why EU would leave apple alone when they are far worst
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i cant see why EU would leave apple alone when they are far worst

It's all about market share wink.gif Google have a HUGE market share in the EU with Android. Like, 70% or something silly like that.
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Let's punish Google for doing good, it's not like they charge consumers to use the majority of their products. I don't see this as being any different than a restaurant selling drinks with food, but in this case Google (the restaurant) does allow you to bring your own food and drink if you so choose. I have no problem using firefox and opera on my android stuff, just Europe trying to make a quick buck I think.
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Yeah, I don't think that you can fairly consider this case as being exactly the same as Microsoft's.
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I don't foresee much coming of this. It is no different than the restaurant analogy above. Can you take a Wendy's burger to McDonalds without issue? Yes, but does that give McDonalds the right to advertise Wendy's burgers? No. They push their own. No difference at all. Other apps are available without an issue at all.
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I don't get it. If you don't want google buy some other phone and its not like you cannot replace all those apps with 3 billion alternatives in the play store.
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So in a nutshell, Google is being hit with an anti-trust lawsuit for advertising their own programs and assets on their own OS and platform?

I don't see this getting very far at all. rolleyes.gif
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I don't foresee much coming of this. It is no different than the restaurant analogy above. Can you take a Wendy's burger to McDonalds without issue? Yes, but does that give McDonalds the right to advertise Wendy's burgers? No. They push their own. No difference at all. Other apps are available without an issue at all.

All of the analogy is absolutely moot. IT's not about pushing this or that. The crux of the matter will be exactly the last sentence. So long as you can install OTHER apps without them being gimped or broken inherently, and that Google use the same API that's available to developers (which they do) then there is no case.

The case against MS was that they gimped other products at the OS level and then pushed theirs in it's place. They were in the wrong and they got screwed internationally. Google aren't doing that, though it appears that MS and Nokia feel that just the inclusion is enough. It also smells faintly of an attempt to kick Android down a notch, without fair reason.


But ultimately, it isn't at all like offering a different kind of burger at McDonalds. It's about whether or not a burger chain has their own burger, McDonanlds, Burger king and Wendys... but spits in all but their own brand.
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The problem, as Fairsearch sees it, is that Google forces OEMs who use Android to unfairly place apps like YouTube and Gmail in prominent places on the desktop.

Ignoring the fact that every software company with an OS has done this I don't remember that stuff being on my phone's "desktop". I think it came pre-installed but so does bloatware. Can't wait till car companies get antitrust suits for not allowing people to get engines from other companies in their car by default or something stupid like that. The only lawsuits I can remotely support would be getting Apple to get rid of their stupid proprietary connections on cables or the iTunes requirement. The iTunes thing is different from the rest because you have to use it while the others can be replaced with alternatives. Or at least the last few things I've seen like my boss' iPad required iTunes. The proprietary connections are just a pet peeve of mine.
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