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I'm on the edge of about to order the 2713 from Best Buy... Tip me over? wink.gif
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Are you gaming? IMO not the best gaming screen. At least from my sample. Low contrast and muted colors, mediocre black levels. Very nice built quality though.
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Are you gaming? IMO not the best gaming screen. At least from my sample. Low contrast and muted colors, mediocre black levels. Very nice built quality though.

-sigh- Yeah.. I game...

Have you tried calibrating it?

See this is why i cant decide on a monitor...

The Asus 278 is out because I'm fairly sure ill get annoyed by the backlight thing

QNix stuff just.. Not ok with the idea of it

The Dell has people who love it and people who keep saying its terribad for playing any games on it

The new 120hz Asus one isnt out till June and while it looks neat im expecting teething issues, and its $800 which is really pushing my budget, and I cant run most games at 1440p at above 60fps so the 120hz thing is probubly a moot point at this time

the Viewsonic 27" one that one guy at HardOCP pushes hard looks like a cheap piece of junk to me, Which I dont like on a $700 screen, Also the reviews on it at Newegg are only so-so and it only seems to be a small VERY militant group that are pushing that thing down peoples throats....Seems like Viewsonic has support issues as well..

The 120hz+ panels are all TN and Im just not sure Im ok with that...

I'm not really in the mood to play musical monitor madness buying and returning 20 screens till i find one just right.. I just wanted an easy logical upgrade from my 2410 but instead im just sitting here tearing my hair out reading review after review
Edited by KenjiS - 3/17/14 at 1:50pm
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I'd say its better than the viewing angle issues on TN panels, I only see it if its at night, in a completely black room, on a completely black screen...
viewing angle issues however are always there, im constantly fiddling with my laptop screen because i adjusted how i was sitting and now one corner of the screen isnt -perfect-, But I'm basically Death the Kid in that regard...and WAY too used to IPS (dont get me wrong, my laptop panel is really nice, but it doesnt change the inherent viewing angle weakness of a TN panel)

I think I'm letting other peoples opinions on input lag and such override my personal experience which has been IPS is great... I play BF4 and other shooters and I do just fine in them (well ok, not in CoD these days but that has little to do with my screen and more to do with crappy netcode and lack of dedicated servers) The color contrast and viewing angle are just amazing
Of course the 2713HM does on paper have slightly more input lag than my 2410....I'm just not sure if i will notice the difference or not

So basically as long as I sit straight in front of a 27" IPS, I should be fine?
Then I guess 24" and 27" IPS should almost be IPS-Glow free if I sit 60-70cm away and facing directly at the center of the screen.

Currently considering the P2414H, P2714H or U2414H because of the very low lag-time.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/dell_p2714h.htm#lag

The only downside I can see is that it is 6-bit+Hi-FRC.

And I might wait until August, considering I'll be a student and get 10-15% at the online stores and that other models might appear.
Hopefully a U2714HM wink.gif
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So basically as long as I sit straight in front of a 27" IPS, I should be fine?
Then I guess 24" and 27" IPS should almost be IPS-Glow free if I sit 60-70cm away and facing directly at the center of the screen.

Currently considering the P2414H, P2714H or U2414H because of the incredibly low lag-time.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/dell_p2714h.htm#lag

The only downside I can see is that it is 6-bit+Hi-FRC.

And I might wait until August, considering I'll be a student and get 10-15% at the online stores.

You misunderstand, on my desktop IPS display i can go all the way almost looking at the thing side on before theres any "issue" from viewing angle. Of course not all IPS displays are created equal, the only time i see the "glow" people talk about is if the monitor is COMPLETELY black with no image or anything on it and im to one side or the other, and i mean to THE SIDE of the bloody thing.. or standing up and looking down at it...

As for those... Well.. I'd avoid the 27 because its only 1080p, I cant imagine stretching those pixels out more without things starting to look kinda fuzzy and that, and by that point if you REALLY just want a 1080p screen I'd look at one of the 120hz or 144hz models (Around $280 gets you Asus' VG248QE which is spectacularly well regarded) if your primary critea is input lag then id just forget IPS and go for a TN panel..
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-sigh- Yeah.. I game...

Have you tried calibrating it?

See this is why i cant decide on a monitor...

The Asus 278 is out because I'm fairly sure ill get annoyed by the backlight thing

QNix stuff just.. Not ok with the idea of it

The Dell has people who love it and people who keep saying its terribad for playing any games on it

The new 120hz Asus one isnt out till June and while it looks neat im expecting teething issues, and its $800 which is really pushing my budget, and I cant run most games at 1440p at above 60fps so the 120hz thing is probubly a moot point at this time

the Viewsonic 27" one that one guy at HardOCP pushes hard looks like a cheap piece of junk to me, Which I dont like on a $700 screen, Also the reviews on it at Newegg are only so-so and it only seems to be a small VERY militant group that are pushing that thing down peoples throats....Seems like Viewsonic has support issues as well..

The 120hz+ panels are all TN and Im just not sure Im ok with that...

I'm not really in the mood to play musical monitor madness buying and returning 20 screens till i find one just right.. I just wanted an easy logical upgrade from my 2410 but instead im just sitting here tearing my hair out reading review after review

After calibration i barely hit 700:1 contrast ratio (with i1displaypro). I think mine may have been a dud though, most reviews say around 900-1000:1.
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You misunderstand, on my desktop IPS display i can go all the way almost looking at the thing side on before theres any "issue" from viewing angle. Of course not all IPS displays are created equal, the only time i see the "glow" people talk about is if the monitor is COMPLETELY black with no image or anything on it and im to one side or the other, and i mean to THE SIDE of the bloody thing.. or standing up and looking down at it...

As for those... Well.. I'd avoid the 27 because its only 1080p, I cant imagine stretching those pixels out more without things starting to look kinda fuzzy and that, and by that point if you REALLY just want a 1080p screen I'd look at one of the 120hz or 144hz models (Around $280 gets you Asus' VG248QE which is spectacularly well regarded) if your primary critea is input lag then id just forget IPS and go for a TN panel..

Finally someone who tells me that IPS-Glow isn't a knife in the back when purchasing an IPS! tongue.gif

Yes, I know I should avoid the 27" 1080P screens.
I'm just hoping that Dell releases the 2014 version of U2713HM sometime soon.

I've been having the upgrade-itch for almost a year now..
Not strange considering I have an Samsung XL2370, it is a true nightmare at times.
The only good thing about it is that I managed to force it to 72Hz.

*Edit:
Just read on Hardforum that the P2414H can be overclocked up to 80Hz.
Might just be a good year for a monitor upgrade. ^^
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Finally someone who tells me that IPS-Glow isn't a knife in the back when purchasing an IPS! tongue.gif

glow is a non issue. i'm actually surprised people seem so scared about it where as TN color shift is so brutal that depending on how you sit the image looks different. like it matters that black is black when colors turn nearly into a negative image.
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glow is a non issue. i'm actually surprised people seem so scared about it where as TN color shift is so brutal that depending on how you sit the image looks different. like it matters that black is black when colors turn nearly into a negative image.

This! Its a huge reason im scared of a large TN panel for my monitor because I sit very close to it, Most TVs are TN panels I believe but because you sit farther back in general the viewing angle thing isnt so bad, But on a screen i sit not even a foot away from yeah.. viewing angle is important because otherwise the corners of the image end up looking wonky

Even on my "tiny" 17" laptop(Which uses a TN panel) if im not DEAD ON its kinda off looking... my IPS display i can slouch in my seat and it looks exactly the same unless i go to some rediculous extremes (ie extremes you're never going to see in normal usage)
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Finally someone who tells me that IPS-Glow isn't a knife in the back when purchasing an IPS! tongue.gif

Yes, I know I should avoid the 27" 1080P screens.
I'm just hoping that Dell releases the 2014 version of U2713HM sometime soon.

I've been having the upgrade-itch for almost a year now..
Not strange considering I have an Samsung XL2370, it is a true nightmare at times.
The only good thing about it is that I managed to force it to 72Hz.

*Edit:
Just read on Hardforum that the P2414H can be overclocked up to 80Hz.
Might just be a good year for a monitor upgrade. ^^

I still say if you care so much about refresh and such you're just better off at least TRYING one of the 144hz monitors on the market...
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