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lolwut only a centimeter? That's nothing.

That is what I try to tell myself, but I still notice it. I think my expectations are likely too high, as I have a 50 inch plasma that I am used to watching stuff on (and it has amazing contrast).
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Get a call yesterday afternoon from a DELL rep asking if I had received my monitor and was I satisfied. I thought this was great customer service even after the fact checking if my product exchange went smoothly.

Exceptional service. I wasn't expecting a call back from a live person. If anything was wrong with the replacement monitor I'd have had the opportunity to discuss it with them. DELL was advised this monitor is great and not showing any of the yellow back light bleed in the bottom left corner.

Made a quick slide show to show off the colors with no bleeed in the lower left hand corner. What a difference. This monitor rocks now. thumb.gif

     
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Glad you got a good one biggrin.gif
Is this is your 2nd or 3rd?
It does make a huge difference not having the bleeding, games and films seem way more immersive. With my first monitor (which had bleeding) the light really distracts you.
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Glad you got a good one biggrin.gif
Is this is your 2nd or 3rd?
It does make a huge difference not having the bleeding, games and films seem way more immersive. With my first monitor (which had bleeding) the light really distracts you.

I only had to do one exchange so this was my second monitor first replacement. Sure did make a difference in that corner.
     
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Get a call yesterday afternoon from a DELL rep asking if I had received my monitor and was I satisfied. I thought this was great customer service even after the fact checking if my product exchange went smoothly.

Exceptional service. I wasn't expecting a call back from a live person. If anything was wrong with the replacement monitor I'd have had the opportunity to discuss it with them. DELL was advised this monitor is great and not showing any of the yellow back light bleed in the bottom left corner.

Made a quick slide show to show off the colors with no bleeed in the lower left hand corner. What a difference. This monitor rocks now. thumb.gif


I can't remember; did you say your second had NO bleed at all, or just no yellow bleeding the lower left? Does it have any edge bleeding towards the bottom?

I am most likely going to stick with my A01 panel for a while at least and see if the slight bleed I have on the bottom edge bothers me or not; I would obviously prefer it to not be there, but it seems like any replacement I get is just as likely to have bleed, possibly in a worse place. It is only noticeable when I watch movies/TV with the lights out, which unfortunately is how I prefer to watch things. However, given how bright this monitor can go it does very well in bright settings where the bleed isn't noticeable, even on a completely black screen.


Even without the bleeding, black levels simply aren't all that great because of IPS glow. However, the contrast is actually fairly high, so the bright parts of the image are still very bright. This whole experience has emphasized to me that IPS displays are best for bright settings (like offices) and are not the best for a home theater type experience.

In all honesty, LCDs in general simply aren't ideal for dark viewing. I have a first gen 50 inch 720P plasma (which I got back when 1080P plasmas were over 8 grand), and it completely smashes any LCD I have ever seen in terms of contrast and black levels. The colors are also absurdly vibrant. I think I was unrealistically expecting something at least close to that out of this display, which wasn't realistic.


Interestingly, the area where I find this display most useful isn't with games or movies, but rather doing work. It is wonderful to be able to put MATLAB and Mathematica windows side by side on the screen and still have plenty of room to work in both windows; with my previous 1080p display I could do this, but I had less room in each window than I would have liked (especially since MATLAB itself is made up of a number of different windows).
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I can't remember; did you say your second had NO bleed at all, or just no yellow bleeding the lower left? Does it have any edge bleeding towards the bottom?

I have white glow but no strong yellow glow in the lower left hand corner. I do have a dark setting at home and it's not showing in pics, desktop, movies, or games. So it's a moot point for me. I'd imagine regardless white or yellow if its strong enough it's going to bleed through.

HERE is the comparison I did a few pages back comparing the difference. A00 to A01 version.
     
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I have white glow but no strong yellow glow in the lower left hand corner. I do have a dark setting at home and it's not showing in pics, desktop, movies, or games. So it's a moot point for me. I'd imagine regardless white or yellow if its strong enough it's going to bleed through.

HERE is the comparison I did a few pages back comparing the difference. A00 to A01 version.

Although it is hard to tell (as I don't know your exposure settings and how well they translate to human vision), I think your rev A01 panel has about the same bleed location as mine. I wonder if they "fixed" the problem that the A00 panels had by adjusting the enclosure so the bleed is at the bottom, and therefore less noticeable.

Or more probably, there was something else they changed that happened to alter the bleed a bit.
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Although it is hard to tell (as I don't know your exposure settings and how well they translate to human vision), I think your rev A01 panel has about the same bleed location as mine. I wonder if they "fixed" the problem that the A00 panels had by adjusting the enclosure so the bleed is at the bottom, and therefore less noticeable.

Or more probably, there was something else they changed that happened to alter the bleed a bit.

The white glow is IPS which I feel is normal, perhaps a bit much. The yellow glow backlight bleed A01 fix allowed for IPS glow in its place I guess. We need to keep an open mind until we get more examples and have some confirmation if it's fixed across the board.

Your accurate the glow is only in the same left corner width wise, the difference is the yellow backlight bleed would bleed through and as you can see even in the dark settings those pics did not show the white glow.

My PB287Q I tried had backlight bleed as well it in two different spots on the right side, upper and lower, wasn't as wide but it two spots. It did show slightly in border movies and not in gaming unless it was a dark border scence. I was ready to live with that but I wasn't ready to live with the dead pixels that were right in my line of eyesight. Turned out to be a good thing because I ended up with slightly better monitor at a much lower price.

Seems all IPS monitors glow, it's just a matter if the glow is going to protrude. Most people just turn on their monitor look for some dark spots and thier good. Once you dissect your monitor properly and you know where to look sometimes it can be a curse. tongue.gif
     
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The white glow is IPS which I feel is normal, perhaps a bit much. The yellow glow backlight bleed A01 fix allowed for IPS glow in its place I guess. We need to keep an open mind until we get more examples and have some confirmation if it's fixed across the board.

Your accurate the glow is only in the same left corner width wise, the difference is the yellow backlight bleed would bleed through and as you can see even in the dark settings those pics did not show the white glow.

My PB287Q I tried had backlight bleed as well it in two different spots on the right side, upper and lower, wasn't as wide but it two spots. It did show slightly in border movies and not in gaming unless it was a dark border scence. I was ready to live with that but I wasn't ready to live with the dead pixels that were right in my line of eyesight. Turned out to be a good thing because I ended up with slightly better monitor at a much lower price.

Seems all IPS monitors glow, it's just a matter if the glow is going to protrude. Most people just turn on their monitor look for some dark spots and thier good. Once you dissect your monitor properly and you know where to look sometimes it can be a curse. tongue.gif

I am pretty sure that the yellow "bleed" was technically IPS glow as well, but was a result of some pressure that the enclosure put on the panel that warped it so the IPS glow was visible head on, instead of at an angle like it usually is.
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I changed my monitors a few times all ready but that was when there was no A01 and i still have that yellow glow on both of my monitors on the left side. But if i move my head the glow goes away. So i guess that's not backlight bleed and it's just ips glow
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