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My enclosure seems a little loose at the top of the panel in the middle; does anyone else with a rev A01 have this? It doesn't seem like it is going to come off, but it is a little odd that it is loose at the top.


Also I am either going crazy or my crosshatching is getting worse... I know it can't actually be getting worse, but I think I am noticing it more now and it is sort of driving me nuts. However, since it seems like they all have this degree of coating, I think I may just have to live with it.
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My enclosure seems a little loose at the top of the panel in the middle; does anyone else with a rev A01 have this? It doesn't seem like it is going to come off, but it is a little odd that it is loose at the top.


Also I am either going crazy or my crosshatching is getting worse... I know it can't actually be getting worse, but I think I am noticing it more now and it is sort of driving me nuts. However, since it seems like they all have this degree of coating, I think I may just have to live with it.


Anyone? Just a simple "yes the top of my screen is loose" or "no it isn't" would suffice; I'm trying to figure out if this is normal or not...

It could actually be a good thing, since it doesn't seem like it will come off at all, but also means that there isn't stress being put on the panel.
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Anyone? Just a simple "yes the top of my screen is loose" or "no it isn't" would suffice; I'm trying to figure out if this is normal or not...

It could actually be a good thing, since it doesn't seem like it will come off at all, but also means that there isn't stress being put on the panel.

I will check for you but I need more specifics.

Are you talking about the between the black plastic part of the panel that connects with the backside of the monitor in essence snaps together and holds the display?
     
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I will check for you but I need more specifics.

Are you talking about the between the black plastic part of the panel that connects with the backside of the monitor in essence snaps together and holds the display?

That sounds like what I am describing; basically the front component of the bezel that holds the panel into the enclosure. On mine, it is a little "loose" at the top directly in the center. It is still firmly connected and it doesn't come apart, but there is some play in it. I can also pull this top part of the bezel upwards a little (away from the bottom of the monitor). It doesn't seem like it is a structural issue at all because the bezel is still securely on, it just seems like the tolerances aren't very tight.
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That sounds like what I am describing; basically the front component of the bezel that holds the panel into the enclosure. On mine, it is a little "loose" at the top directly in the center. It is still firmly connected and it doesn't come apart, but there is some play in it. I can also pull this top part of the bezel upwards a little (away from the bottom of the monitor). It doesn't seem like it is a structural issue at all because the bezel is still securely on, it just seems like the tolerances aren't very tight.

Boy you really did take dissecting this monitor a step further than me. tongue.gif

Mine is tight along the entire top with the chrome part that attaches with the 'black strip' for better lack of a word. I do not have any play to pull these two plastics apart even the slightest. I did notice as I tap along the front of the black strip in front of the monitor from one side completely to the other side, there are two spots left and right about 4" inches in that about 2" wide that feels like a hollow spot. Like construction when your finding the studs in a wall if you tap along the top you'll feel these spots. It gives the illusion it's not on solid as the rest of the front that's attached to the monitor enclosure.

I see though where your heading with this. Your trying to see if there is a correlation to the stress on the panel in relation to the glow from the sides. wink.gif
     
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This is a really nice monitor. One comment i'll make though, is that out of the box that the gamma is ridiculously high, higher than any monitor i've used. The first instinct is to lower the monitor brightness but that doesn't work well since it dims the entire image.

So it really looks great once calibrated, or another thing you can do with nvidia cards (and AMD, can't remember how though) is to lower the gamma in the nvidia CP to about 65-70% or so. Then increase saturation to 60%. At these settings, the colors are absolutely astounding - white whites and deep blacks. I just can't figure out why Dell made the default gamma so high, and the monitor's built in brightness doesn't fix it very well. Oh well.

This is one of about 10 WQHD monitors i've viewed, and overall it's good. It really begs to be calibrated though, the brightness and gamma by default aren't ideal. Or you can adjust it with your video card CP settings. Anyway, I think the best WQHD is by far the Samsung S27B970D, but the price on that one is ridiculously high. Considering the 2713HM is half the cost of that screen, it's overall a good buy.
Edited by xoleras - 5/10/13 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by Mjolnir125 View Post

Anyone? Just a simple "yes the top of my screen is loose" or "no it isn't" would suffice; I'm trying to figure out if this is normal or not...

It could actually be a good thing, since it doesn't seem like it will come off at all, but also means that there isn't stress being put on the panel.

Yes, mine is loose too. Must be normal.
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Boy you really did take dissecting this monitor a step further than me. tongue.gif

My thoughts exactly. Dis dude is crazy!
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This is a really nice monitor. One comment i'll make though, is that out of the box that the gamma is ridiculously high, higher than any monitor i've used. The first instinct is to lower the monitor brightness but that doesn't work well since it dims the entire image.

So it really looks great once calibrated, or another thing you can do with nvidia cards (and AMD, can't remember how though) is to lower the gamma in the nvidia CP to about 65-70% or so. Then increase saturation to 60%. At these settings, the colors are absolutely astounding - white whites and deep blacks. I just can't figure out why Dell made the default gamma so high, and the monitor's built in brightness doesn't fix it very well. Oh well.

This is one of about 10 WQHD monitors i've viewed, and overall it's good. It really begs to be calibrated though, the brightness and gamma by default aren't ideal. Or you can adjust it with your video card CP settings. Anyway, I think the best WQHD is by far the Samsung S27B970D, but the price on that one is ridiculously high. Considering the 2713HM is half the cost of that screen, it's overall a good buy.

What are you judging the "too high gamma" on? What other monitors are you comparing it to? The sRGB preset is factory calibrated with some VERY expensive equipment (a Chroma 7121 and 2326), and something tells me they are better at judging what the proper gamma is than your eyes... I found the gamma to be just right IMO; it was similar to the other dell IPS that I have (u2211H).


Also yes, I am the nitpickiest person in the world. I would't be SO nitpicky if this monitor wasn't $200 more than the monoprice and other cheaper panels.
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Also yes, I am the nitpickiest person in the world. I would't be SO nitpicky if this monitor wasn't $200 more than the monoprice and other cheaper panels.

I meant that in a good way bud. I find we're mostly a discerning group of consumer in general here. I agree with you 100% paying more for the premium panel warranty I expect nothing less. Not that I consider paying $585 that much more than a gray market panel for all the obvois PROs and piece of mind for 3 years that it brings.

I dissected all three of the panels I had on my desk for days before I was satisfied. A bit obsessive but worth while for a great monitor without compromise.

One thing we've done in this club since first posts, is analysis this monitor and expose it for good or bad. If some one is interested in this monitor, a lot of good info right in this thread. A good amount of documentation with pictures, and videos.

I'm glad after all my hunting, the search is over. I've breathed a sigh of relief I was successful with my current U2713HM. Now I'll just sit back and help others as they come to the thread with questions. smile.gif
     
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What are you judging the "too high gamma" on? What other monitors are you comparing it to? The sRGB preset is factory calibrated with some VERY expensive equipment (a Chroma 7121 and 2326), and something tells me they are better at judging what the proper gamma is than your eyes... I found the gamma to be just right IMO; it was similar to the other dell IPS that I have (u2211H).


Also yes, I am the nitpickiest person in the world. I would't be SO nitpicky if this monitor wasn't $200 more than the monoprice and other cheaper panels.

Indeed. On the unit I reviewed gamma was very close to 2.2 (just over) and tracked quite nicely across the entire range.
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