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Originally Posted by Booblej View Post

To clarify.... i went through five S2740L monitors.

After the fifth exchange, DELL decidied to upgrade me to the U2713HM

This is my first U2713HM, but has issues....

Now DELL refuses to send me another exchange...... they say a refund is the only option, and i would have to send the U2713HM back....

So the 3 year warranty & premium panel guarantee is in their hands. They pretty much said we no longer want you as a customer.
Str8 OCD. I'm familiar with this pattern in regards to returns/exchanges. If only there was a perfect monitor. ..
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Another thing if anyone is interested: the calibration showed that the Standard mode actually has 84% of Adobe RGB gamut, while the sRGB mode has something like 74% of coverage (I am not sure exactly, but I would have to rerun the calibration to check). The factory sRGB mode on my monitor had 98% of sRGB, while the standard mode had 100% of sRGB coverage, plus extra coverage of additional color space (which is why it has fairly high Adobe RGB coverage).

I really don't know why I am getting contrast values below 600 though; the contrast on my monitor seems very good compared to other LCDs I have, and I am definitely happy with it... It seems like the black levels for all but the lowest brightness setting are about double what other reviewers have been getting (but with different calibration equipment).
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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post

Str8 OCD. I'm familiar with this pattern in regards to returns/exchanges. If only there was a perfect monitor. ..

Well,.....the first one the backlight was going out randomly. The next 3 were physically damaged on arrival. And the final one had debris between the glass and LCD (S2740L)........ Which is why DELL decided to upgraded me to the U2713HM.

So now i have a beautiful U2713HM with horrible image retention.....

I have confirmed retention on DVI-D>PC, and HDMI> PS3...... so its not an input specific issue...
Edited by Booblej - 5/15/13 at 8:51pm
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Well, I went through 2 Asus PB278Qs and decided to swap to one of the U2713HMs!

My first Asus had a horrible tea-stain looking top left corner, and the second one had a much warmer but red tinted right side of the screen with the top left being cool.

I took the risk and swapped out to one of these instead. Now the display is pretty much colour uniformed.

This is a picture of my back bleed. It is considerably more noticeable than the Asus. Although I am happy with the monitor I would like to know if it is normal or not. It looks about average compared to some in the pictures (some have bleed in all corners). Is this good or not?

Otherwise, the only SLIGHT crosshatching if you are PROPERLY looking for it, no buzzing or any other issue so far (Excel spreadsheets usually cause it apparently). And I AM picky as you can tell from my two Asus's, lol.Thanks. smile.gif

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Dell U2713HM(left), Asus PB278Q (right):

Edited by Paganister - 5/16/13 at 1:24pm
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Looks exactly like mine.
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Well, I went through 2 Asus PB278Qs and decided to swap to one of the U2713HMs!

My first Asus had a horrible tea-stain looking top left corner, and the second one had a much warmer but red tinted right side of the screen with the top left being cool.

I took the risk and swapped out to one of these instead. Now the display is pretty much colour uniformed.

This is a picture of my back bleed. It is considerably more noticeable than the Asus. Although I am happy with the monitor I would like to know if it is normal or not. It looks about average compared to some in the pictures (some have bleed in all corners). Is this good or not?

Otherwise, the only SLIGHT crosshatching if you are PROPERLY looking for it, no buzzing or any other issue so far (Excel spreadsheets usually cause it apparently). And I AM picky as you can tell from my two Asus's, lol.Thanks. smile.gif
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1/4 Shutter Speed:


1/6 Shutter Speed:


Low light:


Dell U2713HM(left), Asus PB278Q (right):

Thats really bad bleeding. Damn it
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@Paganister

If your yellow bleed in the lower left stands out in movie black borders or gaming of any kind, replace it.

I'm curious on the back of your panel is it revision A00 or A01?

I had that yellow glow that bleed on my first monitor a little bit. I didn't think enough for a replacement but DELL offered. So I went from A00 to the new revision A01 and the yellow bleed was basically replaced with white glow but not aggressive enough to show at all through black borders.

When /. If you decide to go through the process - please keep us posted. Want to document DELL support good or bad.
     
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Can you see the yellow glow when viewing the panel head on from a few feet away? If so, you can probably do better. Pretty much all of these have corner glow when you are close to the panel, but you shouldn't be able to see it head on far away.
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^ Good tip. Sitting further away it is reduced to almost levels I am used to on a monitor - just unusual by being a little yellow. When I sit at my normal distance ( talking about half a meter here) while playing games I notice it more.

To be honest, I am very happy with the way the panel looks when there is something white on the screen. I don't think I want to take the risk again because of that since 90% of the time I am viewing something like Facebook etc anyway.

How far away do you guys sit from your monitors then? Is this something that might improve slightly the more you "run in" the monitor, like a car motor? tongue.gif

Thanks again.

Edit: Oh, and it's revision Jan 2013 - A00

FYI - it's through Amazon .co.uk. They have been faultless the whole time on customer service, fully recommend them. thumb.gif
Edited by Paganister - 5/16/13 at 11:33pm
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Another thing if anyone is interested: the calibration showed that the Standard mode actually has 84% of Adobe RGB gamut, while the sRGB mode has something like 74% of coverage (I am not sure exactly, but I would have to rerun the calibration to check). The factory sRGB mode on my monitor had 98% of sRGB, while the standard mode had 100% of sRGB coverage, plus extra coverage of additional color space (which is why it has fairly high Adobe RGB coverage).

I really don't know why I am getting contrast values below 600 though; the contrast on my monitor seems very good compared to other LCDs I have, and I am definitely happy with it... It seems like the black levels for all but the lowest brightness setting are about double what other reviewers have been getting (but with different calibration equipment).

The U2713HM colour gamut natively extends a bit beyond sRGB with the colour gamut restricted to sRGB in 'sRGB' mode - it's a colour space emulation mode. The Spyder3 is not a good device to use as a reference. For one thing the sensor was designed before LED backlights were popular and it is not able to accurately measure white point or indeed colours on LED backlights. It isn't terrible, it can be used for a fairly decent calibration for general use - but don't give too much weight to anything it's reporting for you regarding colour gamut or white point.

Another issue with the Spyder3 is that it has terrible low-level light accuracy. That means it is not able to accurately measure the black point of a monitor and tends to overstate it. I'd always advise taking these measurements in a dark room if possible, but the lack of accuracy is why there is such discrepancy between your contrast measurements at '0' brightness and others. And also why you got such a poor contrast ratio readings in general. Its successor, the Spyder4, is much better at measuring various things on LED backlights and is also a bit more accurate at low light levels. It's still not all that great for contrast measurements though, which is why I use a separate device for measuring light levels when I review monitors.
Edited by PCM2 - 5/28/14 at 12:32am
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