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CES 2014 is here ! where's my spawn v2 ? frown.gif


I feel your pain. I'm surprised Zowie, Razer, and Logitech didn't release anything new.
post #462 of 609
i went on a mouse buying frenzy and picked up a lot of mice

i'm missing my cm spawn and a few others because my room is a mess (rearranging everything to have a better streaming setup without so much stuff happening in my background)

heres positives and negatives of all the mice i have~

cm recon:
+great build quality
+great mousewheel
-height is too tall
-weighs too much
-800 dpi as lowest step (prefer 400 dpi)

cm spawn:
+best rubber grips if you put grips on any of your mice please let it be like this and not ****ty like rival & deathadder
+soooo comfortable
+light weight
+good mousewheel
-super thick cable
-claw grip (im not a claw grip so this is purely personal preference and how its a negative for me)
-sensor placed sideways.. i'm not sure if it affects tracking but something feels off with it well mine anyway. i feel the tracking on the recon is better.
-800 dpi as lowest step (prefer 400 dpi)

steelseries kana v1: (ordered kana v2 should be coming in next week and should fix switches & sensor)
+400 dpi step
+great shape for ambi mouse
+light weight
+great mousewheel
-stiff braided cable
-non omron switches
-sensor can feel iffy sometimes

zowie ec2 evo cl:
+great shape
+great sensor but weird dpi steps
+light weight
-lowest dpi is 450 which is okay but would rather have 400!
-custom lens that won't work on a lot of mousepads
-build quality is pretty bad i'm very easy on mice and the shell clicks when i push on the side
-mousehweel is smoother than regular ec2 evo but still not very good

corsair m40:
+great build quality
+braided cable isnt too stiff
+pretty decent shape
-mousewheel is heavy and rattles when you move your mouse back and forth
-feels like the mousewheel is super heavy because it's metal and really throws off the balance if it was plastic and without the weights the mouse would be a great weight
-sensor sideways like spawn and 800 dpi lowest step -.-

logitech g400:
+great sensor
+great build quality
+great shape
-mousewheel is kinda bad
-really heavy
-i've used so many 500s 510s 518s and i've always been meh about the right side of the mouse i feel it should be smoothed out for your ring and pinky finger

razer deathadder 2013
+great sensor
+great shape
+good mousewheel
-heavy
-build quality is blah my mouse1 is kinda squeaky now
-side rubber grips are better than rivals but i'm not a fan of them a proper rubber coating would be better or same grips as spawn

steelseries sensei raw
+great shape
+great build quality
+great mousehweel
+pretty light weight could be 5-10 grams lighter
-laser sensors feel awful to me compared to optical
-lowest dpi is 450 which is okay but would rather have 400!

steelseries ikari optical
+decent shape but really big
+great mousewheel
+decent build quality
+great sensor but this is highly personal preference because i'm one of the few people who like some prediction although no new mice have it so it's not a big deal anymore and avago 3060 is no longer available anyway
-heavy
-really big

steelseries rival
+great sensor
+great mousewheel
-heavy
-awful build quality (buttons touch eachother when you hold right click at same time as left click)
-sensor placement is offset and causes a lot of users to have this issue when moving mouse left http://www.twitch.tv/godson/c/3264554
-sidegrips are awful and rough


what i would like in a mouse
+lightweight 70-88g
+nonstiff braided cable
+solid mousewheel
+optical sensor that has a 400dpi step
+omron switches
+if you must have sidegrips let them be more similar to the spawn and not rough like DA or rival
+logitech mx500 shape, 1.1 shape, wmo shape, or microsoft 3.0 shape don't try to reinvent the wheel just clone that **** =}

if alcor gets 400 dpi step and doesnt get awful sidegrips and keeps a light weight it will be my next mouse for sure unless you release a 1.1 style mouse which i would also give a try to~
post #463 of 609
Got a suggestion for spawn v2 if it's not too late at this point.

Would it be possible to place the sensor in the center of the base at least on the vertical axis? My personal preference would be more up front, even more than on wmo, alcor etc but center is a nice, neutral position.

With Xornet and old Spawn, the length of the arc produced when you turn with your wrist is noticeably smaller than on mice of comparable size that don't have the sensor as far back. This may require higher sensitivity, which in turn may lead to worse accuracy with small fingertip movements where the mouse doesn't really have a pivot point.
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I feel your pain. I'm surprised Zowie, Razer, and Logitech didn't release anything new.

Razer has completed their range of mice that offer something for everyone and are now interested in making themselves in to a lifestyle brand. Logitech haven't done anything new in a long time and don't appear to have much interest in mice any more. Zowie has made some changes to their existing designs but they have already done the important mouse shapes. At the moment all we are seeing is older mice being updated with the PMW-3310.
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With Xornet and old Spawn, the length of the arc produced when you turn with your wrist is noticeably smaller than on mice of comparable size that don't have the sensor as far back.

To be honest, that sounds like a good feature. I'd have to try both, though. It's hard to argue with centralized sensor
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Got a suggestion for spawn v2 if it's not too late at this point.

Would it be possible to place the sensor in the center of the base at least on the vertical axis? My personal preference would be more up front, even more than on wmo, alcor etc but center is a nice, neutral position.

With Xornet and old Spawn, the length of the arc produced when you turn with your wrist is noticeably smaller than on mice of comparable size that don't have the sensor as far back. This may require higher sensitivity, which in turn may lead to worse accuracy with small fingertip movements where the mouse doesn't really have a pivot point.

I'll second this ^^. Loved the shape of the Xornet when I had one, but as a fingertip-gripper, lateral mouse movement didn't always translate into predictable cursor movement. I suspected it had to do with the sensor placement.

The reason why I no longer have a Xornet is that it just stopped being recognized (by any computer) after about 3 weeks of owning it. The build quality also left something to be desired; the bezel around the DPI switches rattled & the cord felt cheap/stiff. I always thought it a bit silly that Coolermaster chose such a specific, niche shape/form-factor for their "budget" mouse.

If the updated version could split the difference between the driverless minimalism & build-quality of my Zowie EC2 Evo, and the Xornet shape, I would have my ideal mouse.
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When will Spawn 2 release?
post #468 of 609
B]Alcor general impressions[/B]

Overall, it is an excellent mouse.

Positives
  • Size is just right for me. I can comfortably palm and claw grip this mouse.
  • Surface is coating is a bit slippery when dry but sticks with a little sweat/moisture. Breathe on your hand once or twice to get that sticky grip. It's a nice texture overall.
  • Mouse is 1000Hz by default.
  • Mouse clicks all feel right. Not too stiff and not too soft. This includes scroll wheel click. Never had a problem with accidental misclicks like I did with the right button on the DA2013.
  • Feels very responsive with movement.
  • Mouse is excellent balanced. Center of gravity point is in line with the center of the lens.
  • Feet are the same size as IME 3.0.
  • Cable feels very similar to the one used on a Zowie FK. Soft and flexible but you'll probably have to stretch it a bit to remove the small kinks caused by it being wrapped up.
  • Nice little rubber bumps on the scroll wheel to give a bit of grip.

Negatives

  • Scroll wheel has side wobble and this appears to be because the axle is moving out of the cog and to the right a bit. This has been irritating at times.
  • Scroll steps need a little more force to scroll. Currently, it is a bit too easy to scroll three times when you only wanted to scroll twice.
  • No software currently and I can't turn the damn light off.
  • High LOD though there isn't anything CM can do about this.
  • No 400dpi step.
  • If I shake the mouse there is a small rattle. I currently don't know what causes it.

Enotus Tests




Misc

Two screws under the bottom mouse feet. Unpeel the feet and unscrew them. Slide a nail around the bottom shell to loosen it from the top shell. Push the top shell forwards to unhook it from the front of the mouse. Beware the ribbon cable that connects the PCB to the side switches in the top shell.

There is no screw underneath the sticker though it feels like there is. It is just a small indent in the plastic. CM probably put it there to catch people who dig into the sticker looking for a screw to open the mouse and void the warranty. CM obviously can't say you voided the warranty by peeling off the mouse feet. This means that if you leave sticker unscathed there would be no way to detect that you've opened the mouse. Not that I would recommend you do this.

Improvements that can be made

400dpi step is absolutely needed. I have a ton of games that have poor sensitivity options and you can only really use 400dpi to get a decently high distance/360°.

I'd like a tilt scroll wheel because I can tilt a scroll wheel much faster than click the side buttons and I bind M4 and M5 to left tilt and right tilt. If it is possible to disable tilt buttons in software then that is a good idea. Tilt scroll wheels shouldn't have side wobble and the force required to tilt should be high in order to not accidentally tilt.

Increase the force required to scroll. It just needs a bit more force to give each step a tactile feel.

I prefer thin braided cables such as the one on the Razer Orochi 2013. It was flexible, light and didn't kink.

Please try and make the PMW-3310 as responsive as you can. The PMW-3310 has some nice advantages over the A3090 such as having native steps every ~50dpi and a higher malfunction speed.

Things I forgot to mention

The box has the bottom part removed and the plastic shell of the box is moulded to the mouse.This means you can test how well the shape of the mouse fits your hand before buying. A nice touch from Cooler Master there.
Edited by Dreyka - 2/27/14 at 2:55am
post #469 of 609
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Originally Posted by espgodson View Post

i went on a mouse buying frenzy and picked up a lot of mice

i'm missing my cm spawn and a few others because my room is a mess (rearranging everything to have a better streaming setup without so much stuff happening in my background)

heres positives and negatives of all the mice i have~

cm recon:
+great build quality
+great mousewheel
-height is too tall
-weighs too much
-800 dpi as lowest step (prefer 400 dpi)


I had a Recon too (changed only 1 week ago for a naos 7000) and I agree about the mousewheel, build quality and dpi but i found the height to be fine agree also on the weight too heavy
post #470 of 609
Alcor sensor position needs to be centered... Seriously if you guy are redesigning it, now is the time to fix...
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