Do we actually have any proof to back up what AMD is saying about optimization? Anything?
Oh yes we actually have a real next gen game that has been benched already!
oh look. a 2500K matching a 8350. And the 2500K has much more OCing potential. Well there goes all EA games at least.
Also why do people even care about core count if all the cores are going to be utilized? When all cores are used core count does not matter. Only the performance you get from all of them does. And in this case an i5 is maybe 15% behind an 8-core FX when everything is utilized to the max.
And I've been saying this forever but games will NOT get to that point. Coding games to have extremely parallel loads for the CPU to process is next to impossible. You can have stuff like audio being processed on different cores, AI, user input etc. But you will always need good single thread performance as those individual tasks like user input are extremely hard to spread to multiple cores. Yes the games will use more cores, no, that does not mean that the load will be evenly spread across cores or that single thread perf doesn't matter anymore.
Comparing the FX 8-core vs i5 situation to i3 vs i5 today is extremely misleading and an absolute fail of a comparison.
The i5 has 200%
of the performance of the i3s when all cores are utilized to the max.
The FX8350 has maybe 115%
of the performance of the i5s when all cores are utilized to the max.
In what possible way are the situations comparable?
Take the BF4 bench for example. How much extra perf does an i5 get over an i3 with that doubling of CPU power (I'm also accounting for the clock speed difference here)?
min fps: 30% increase
avg fps: 38% increase
Now let's for a while assume that all 8 cores would be used as well as 4 in next gen games (again not happening due to the inherent way games are coded and due to the fact that both PS4 and xbone are reserving some of the cores for system usage). What would that mean in terms of improvement for the 8350?
min fps: 4.5% increase
avg fps: 5.7% increase
and that's over the i5.
Now we all know that at the moment the FX is behind the current i5s by more than those numbers. So even if we use BF4s amazing 2 -> 4 core scaling and assume the same would hold true to 4 -> 8 core scaling the 8350 would not even catch the i5s
across all next gen gaming loads. Not even close.
And once again that's assuming as good scaling as with lower core counts. Of course diminishing returns are a thing and so on. And that's also not accounting for the fact that the i5 has better single thread perf than the 8350 while the i3 and i5 have identical perf in that regard.
None of this "consoles will make 8350 much better than current i5s" argument makes any sense when you check the numbers and available benches. None of it.
And until we see actual proof outside of AMD's PR department's statements I would suggest that people side with 3rd party review sites and math instead of PR and pseudo science.