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He //IS// right, though.

Yes he may have pissed off a few people, fine; whatever...But, aside from living in ****ty areas, we as a nation are very rarely without internet.

I'm not debating infrastructure issues etc...etc...etc...But, he does have a valid point and that's the way we're headed.

He also wasn't fired...He resigned; wouldn't have been fired, either...He was too big of an asset.

You can easily be 'pressured' to resign. They probably gave him a nice severance to go away. Happens all the time in the corporate world.

He could have easily made his always online internet points without being an ass, his arguments have merit but his attitude diminished his points. I disagree with always online as I feel there is no reason to force someone to be 'connected' for a single player game.
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Knucklehead was talking about the person responding to Orth saying Blacksburg isn't connected.


I know -- I was mocking those that were complaining about being insulted...Move on.

I hear developers insult "enthusiasts" all day -- They might not do it directly to your face but, are you going to complain about it on the internet because it happens? No.

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Quite often actually, I notice it 3-5 times a day. But when it does lose signal I can still use it for other things. With "always on" on the next xbox you will be locked out of your console if you lose internet connection. A bit like if you are playing a game such as SimCity and your internet connection goes down.

If you are saying "always on" = still works when not connected to the internet then you aren't very bright. "Always on" implies if you aren't connected to the internet then it won't work.

The assumption in this situation is what ALWAYS ON refers to. -- The answer is you're ASSUMING the term he used is the version that's commonly accepted...But, the product hasn't been released to the public yet nor has //ANY// evidence of this feature's existence besides his word.

Just because I say swaggered doesn't mean I'm using the hipster term "swag"...Get my drift yet?

Your assumptions on this subject are invalid until Microsoft officially says anything about it...All they've said thus far was that this individual is having personal problems and resigned...
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I know -- I was mocking those that were complaining about being insulted...Move on.

I hear developers insult "enthusiasts" all day -- They might not do it directly to your face but, are you going to complain about it on the internet because it happens? No.
The assumption in this situation is what ALWAYS ON refers to. -- The answer is you're ASSUMING the term he used is the version that's commonly accepted...But, the product hasn't been released to the public yet nor has //ANY// evidence of this feature's existence besides his word.

Just because I say swaggered doesn't mean I'm using the hipster term "swag"...Get my drift yet?

Your assumptions on this subject are invalid until Microsoft officially says anything about it...All they've said thus far was that this individual is having personal problems and resigned...

Of course I am assuming. Always on for the next xbox is still a rumour, and I am responding to the rumour. People complaining about rumours is the best R&D for major corporations. All they have to do is "leak" information or start rumours about a product and see how people react to said rumours and leaked information. If people react badly they won't include it in the final product.
   
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I live in a densely populated city with a major ISP and do not get internet 24/7. I get what I consider completely normal sporadic outages every so often during the day, they might only last a few seconds or minutes at the absolute most. But a few seconds is not always on and imho it will remain that way unless a government mandate comes along saying that if the internet for consumers isn't available exactly 24/7 the consumer gets a credit on their account. That isn't going to happen. Deal with it.
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I live in a densely populated city with a major ISP and do not get internet 24/7. I get what I consider completely normal sporadic outages every so often during the day, they might only last a few seconds or minutes at the absolute most. But a few seconds is not always on and imho it will remain that way unless a government mandate comes along saying that if the internet for consumers isn't available exactly 24/7 the consumer gets a credit on their account. That isn't going to happen. Deal with it.

Most of the "Always on" DRM allows for outages to occur as they only ping the server every so often. Much like Sim City where you get a 15? minute grace period before it actually cuts you off. Or even like Steam where as long as you start the client online you can switch to an offline mode and not have to reconnect again for like 90? days before it forces to you to let it check in again. There are plenty of those type of systems in play. So maybe it will be like Steam but force you to start online every time you insert a new game you didn't have before, just so it can say "hey, he owns this game now" then switch back to offline

Or they could just install a SIM card and have that ping a nearby tower ( if not connected via Ethernet or WiFi ). Who knows what they'll do but If they are planning to do always on, I'm sure they have plenty of options in place for people with sketchy internet.

Only time will tell though.
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I sure hope they have those kind of systems in place. The bigger concern is server load spikes during peak hours or days when AA/AAA titles are released. We all know how well that went the last time around for Blizzard and EA.rolleyes.gif
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I sure hope they have those kind of systems in place. The bigger concern is server load spikes during peak hours or days when AA/AAA titles are released. We all know how well that went the last time around for Blizzard and EA.rolleyes.gif


on the bright side... we won't have to worry about having driver issues for games at launch... mainly because we won't be able to play games at launch
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Serves him right, he was acting all high and mighty and not to mention his posts upset a lot of people which could have cost a large loss of potential customers for Microsoft. Good riddance and maybe next time he should keep his smart ass comments to himself.
    
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What's funny about the entire thing is that the most important line in the twitter conversation is basically ignored. And it wasn't even Orth who said it.

Manveer Heir: "Did you learn nothing from Diablo III and Simcity?"

This, from a developer, finally someone gets it. Regardless of where "the world we live in" is going, the gamers' response to this twitter and Always-On for the Xbox has been remarkably negative. These companies may end up losing more money from DRM BS than piracy in the long run. Angering a large percentage of the gaming community repeatedly, with the same tactics, seems like a pretty foolish business strategy.

I know that I personally will not be purchasing anything from Bliz or EA for the foreseeable future. I also intend to avoid anything that espouses Always-On requirements like the plague.

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What's funny about the entire thing is that the most important line in the twitter conversation is basically ignored. And it wasn't even Orth who said it.

Manveer Heir: "Did you learn nothing from Diablo III and Simcity?"

This, from a developer, finally someone gets it. Regardless of where "the world we live in" is going, the gamers' response to this twitter and Always-On for the Xbox has been remarkably negative. These companies may end up losing more money from DRM BS than piracy in the long run. Angering a large percentage of the gaming community repeatedly, with the same tactics, seems like a pretty foolish business strategy.

I know that I personally will not be purchasing anything from Bliz or EA for the foreseeable future. I also intend to avoid anything that espouses Always-On requirements like the plague.

smile.gif

I wish the entire gaming community thought like this, but time and time again I learn that the majority are ******* idiots that will buy ANYTHING their favorite company will throw at them. Case 'n point, people saying Gears of War: Judgment is an excellent Gears game when it's a poorly-done carbon-copy of 3 (the menu system is exactly the same), or those fanboys that can only say "They add new perks, killstreaks, weapons, maps!!!" every time a new Call of Duty comes out. -____- and unfortunately, there will be fanboys that will eat up everything Nextbox.
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