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what do you think? Even if I did I couldn't tell you anything more.

I think you do. smile.gif

Wasn't asking for more details, but just wondering if you already had one.
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I would imagine most people with access to samples already have them.

Not hard to guess... many OCNers have chips already...

I'm out of the loop, anyone post any OC'ing results?

Haswell looks like it's more fun to overclock again.

I saw this slide in the PDF...



...but everything that followed was about 3770K. confused.gif


Edited by 2010rig - 4/11/13 at 1:37pm
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So here is what I can post from those slides that is new:
Uncore multiplier is provided
Enhanced BCLK dividers
Different CPU Voltage modes
Better voltage control over more rails inside the CPU
Higher multiplier


All in all is means haswell OC is more complex which thus means it is more fun!
Thanks guys for looking there, I was just lucky to be able to post the slides up early.

Fun = High OC not difficult OC.
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I wish I had the connections to get my hands on a Haswell chip. As it stands, I can barely manage to acquire Doritos...
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5ghz I3 would be interesting
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Fun = High OC not difficult OC.

High OCs are pretty fun but if there's a challenge involved it's much more fun. Changing a single setting or maybe two and seeing the chip's maximum somewhat sucks. In that case you just get the situation that was sandy. Binning galore, nothing else really mattered.
 
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High OCs are pretty fun but if there's a challenge involved it's much more fun. Changing a single setting or maybe two and seeing the chip's maximum somewhat sucks. In that case you just get the situation that was sandy. Binning galore, nothing else really mattered.

I know what you mean but having difficult to OC CPU is not good in the long run. Used to run Q6600 @ 3.6GHz @ 1.35v stable back in the day but getting it there required a ton of setting to be changed. For the life of me i cant get it there any more. A lot of people deal with overclocking for 1-2 days and are done until next CPU. Not everyone is like Sin0822.
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I think you do. smile.gif

Wasn't asking for more details, but just wondering if you already had one.
I'm out of the loop, anyone post any OC'ing results?

Haswell looks like it's more fun to overclock again.

I saw this slide in the PDF...



...but everything that followed was about 3770K. confused.gif


No, the most I've seen is this stuff:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)












 
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okay anyways you can always just OC like sandy or ivy, but if you really want to push it and tweak it more, haswell has those options. Hicookie hit 7ghz in the 3770K demo, but I haven't heard anything about the haswell OC demo, maybe they didn't do it because other people who were there said they were sad they didn't se hicookie OC haswell with LN2.
What is interesting with IDF is that they post all the PDF slides on the internet, and they are pretty thorough, some classes however they wont post the slides, but in this case they did. Also if you walk about IDf you will see systems with CPus that aren't released yet and some will be OCed, but most of the media overlook it either because they don't see it or because they are too busy. Some of the systems they don't' announce what is inside, just one person quietly sits there, so I see the system and i know motherboards very well so I know if that model is out or new so you can get scoops you otherwise wouldn't. I am sure they had a bunch of haswell systems, and i get you one of them was OCed on air. When i goto the events I have nothing really planned so i go to the classes and go to the exhibitions and try to find things others didn't, like virtu MVP in IDF2011. Anyways I wasn't at IDF2013 in china(which is where these slides come from), but the slides are pretty nice.
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No, the most I've seen is this stuff:

Thanks, I hadn't seen any of that.
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Fun = High OC not difficult OC.
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High OCs are pretty fun but if there's a challenge involved it's much more fun. Changing a single setting or maybe two and seeing the chip's maximum somewhat sucks. In that case you just get the situation that was sandy. Binning galore, nothing else really mattered.

I have to agree with Alatar, sandy did high overclocks easily & was a great benching chip, but boring to overclock. It literally took 10 minutes with an air cooler to see how the chip would overclock to, & then it was done. No amount of voltage or cooling would make it go higher.
This was where I started buying my first AMD chips, they didn't benchmark as well, but they were fun to play with & overclock.

It does kinda look like Haswell will have something for everyone. I do hope the air & water coolers can get more out of them than Ivy, it's a better chip than sandy but so many people were disappoint because of temps...
    
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