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okay put it this way.

You guys don't really think OCing Sandy and Ivy is as easy as just increasing multiplier and vcore, do you? There are many other settings that are being hidden by Intel and preset, some that could even raise core frequency, and we get control over those settings now, and it gives us the ability to tweak so we can get the absolute most out of the CPU, while before we couldn't because we didn't have the options.

Intel's Idea of making OC better is to unlock more settings.
    
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Every AMD thread becomes an Intel + AMD thread, and every Intel thread also becomes AMD + Intel. It's only logical this would happen because they are the only two makers of consumer CPUs.
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okay put it this way.

You guys don't really think OCing Sandy and Ivy is as easy as just increasing multiplier and vcore, do you? There are many other settings that are being hidden by Intel and preset, some that could even raise core frequency, and we get control over those settings now, and it gives us the ability to tweak so we can get the absolute most out of the CPU, while before we couldn't because we didn't have the options.

Intel's Idea of making OC better is to unlock more settings.

 

 QFT teaching.gif

 

 Looks like it will bring back the days where you can be "competitive" with a low-end CPU that does good with bclk OC.. and no longer will users looking for high OC be required to purchase the high-end or 'K' skew to fulfill their needs for CPU performance.

 

it reminds me of a mix of 775 and X58.. with all the good things of IB and SB still inside.

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Since "only some processors enable part or all of these features",
I got a sinking feeling most, if not all, low-end chips will not get the OC love.

Or at least be limited with/from some.
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Overclocking was fun before because it more then just the CPU but MB also. Now MB does nothing for Air/Water OC only LN2 which is pointless. Buying a expensive MB for IVY and SB not a good investment.
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Overclocking was fun before because it more then just the CPU but MB also. Now MB does nothing for Air/Water OC only LN2 which is pointless. Buying a expensive MB for IVY and SB not a good investment.
Well, it depends what you want your motherboard to be able to do. Buying something with a PLX chip is a good investment in some cases. If you don't need anything special, a UD3H or MSI GD55 will probably be sufficient.
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Well, it depends what you want your motherboard to be able to do. Buying something with a PLX chip is a good investment in some cases. If you don't need anything special, a UD3H or MSI GD55 will probably be sufficient.

The way I see it, if you're going to spend extra for a PLX motherboard, you might as well go with a $200-250 X79 board with the 3820 or the IB-E equivalent. It costs about the same, and in some cases less, and you get the native 40 PCI-E lanes instead of the latency of an addon chip.
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The way I see it, if you're going to spend extra for a PLX motherboard, you might as well go with a $200-250 X79 board with the 3820 or the IB-E equivalent. It costs about the same, and in some cases less, and you get the native 40 PCI-E lanes instead of the latency of an addon chip.
But the issue with X79 is that you need to worry about the VRM quality and the fact that the selection of 4 way SLI capable boards for $250 or less on X79 is pretty poor. X79 also lacks the extreme overclocking potential of 1155. That said, I still kind of regret going for a G1 sniper 3 over something like an X79 up4.

I would like to see a comparison between a3770k +PLX in 3 way SLI and a 3820 in 3 way SLI compared. I haven't seen anything that actually shows how much this latency matters.
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