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As soon as Office hits iOS and Android. It's GG PC. That's the only thing keeping PCs afloat to the general public imo.
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post #32 of 92
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Originally Posted by Liquidpain View Post

As soon as Office hits iOS and Android. It's GG PC. That's the only thing keeping PCs afloat to the general public imo.

Do you actually believe that?
     
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post #33 of 92
The only vendor we use for our business clients is lenovo, they make great products. When we don't sell them lenovo's we build the workstations ourselves.
post #34 of 92
There's a lot of people wanting to downgrade from Windows 8. But that has not stopped them from buying our computers.

Nothing beats a ThinkPad wink.gif
post #35 of 92
By looking at current trends, yep. Power user like us on this site will still purchase PCs but to the average person that just buys PCs to go on a web browser and/or do some homework via office(I.E. The majority), the days of PC are numbered. At least in its current form. Microsoft office is the one thing holding back the mass exodus.
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yeah this has nothing to with Windows 8, more to do with the last few years the PC industry suffering

I think it also has to do with the power that PC have these days. I see computers all over the place with E6600's that are doing the job just fine yet. People and businesses aren't upgrading because they don't need to and if it isn't needed why stretch a tight budget even tighter to do so? Especially if the upgrade might not even be noticeable. Unless you are gaming or video editing...I don't think there are many other types of computer use that will see much benefit from a CPU faster than an old Core 2 Duo.

Even in the more intensive CPU applications it is still OK. Turn the clock back a couple years and I was upgrading my CPU because I needed to. Not because I wanted to or I was bored...which is what my last two CPU upgrades have been based on, but because I was starting to have issues with operating software or compile times. The advancement in PCs is probably helping its downfall. Throw in the tablet craze and it gets worse really fast.
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I think it also has to do with the power that PC have these days. I see computers all over the place with E6600's that are doing the job just fine yet. People and businesses aren't upgrading because they don't need to and if it isn't needed why stretch a tight budget even tighter to do so? Especially if the upgrade might not even be noticeable. Unless you are gaming or video editing...I don't think there are many other types of computer use that will see much benefit from a CPU faster than an old Core 2 Duo.

Even in the more intensive CPU applications it is still OK. Turn the clock back a couple years and I was upgrading my CPU because I needed to. Not because I wanted to or I was bored...which is what my last two CPU upgrades have been based on, but because I was starting to have issues with operating software or compile times. The advancement in PCs is probably helping its downfall. Throw in the tablet craze and it gets worse really fast.

this all day this...

there is simply no need to buy a newer computer, unless you are on some ancient pc from 2002.... and really the SALES of pc may be down but the USE of pc's is probably constant...
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post #38 of 92
Technology in general is just at a point of diminishing returns for the consumer and in some instances corporations too. The reason to update laptops and PC's was for the faster speeds, better hardware interfaces, and language improvements.

I think since Sandy Bridge released there is not a need to upgrade. CPU's are still crazy fast with 2 cores + 2 hyperthreading cores, and 4 GB of memory. The regular desk jockey just doesn't really need to update.

Combined with the push for "bring your own device to work" where you log into the "Cloud" do interact with your tools the reliance on a PC is less.
My thoughts anyways...
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post #39 of 92
we might possibly buy 200ish Dells this summer *shrug*

Lenovos might be good for enterprise...but it's damn hard to find a service center and get the thing repaired for a end user. Looking at the closest "service centers" on their finder it even showed some printer repair joint. We called and they dont fix Lenovo Thinkpads...

Eventually found a shop on their finder and took over a week to get an x230 broken screen replaced locally. I must just be spoiled by Apple and their overnight to 2 day shipping.
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post #40 of 92
realize that it's been very cheap to walk into best buy and purchase a desktop with an i5/i7, 8 gigs of Ram, an AMD 5770, and 1 Terabyte hard drive. Dirt cheap. These people have NO reason to upgrade because their systems are already vast overkill for the majority of users. This is a sign that they need to reinvent something...we no longer just need faster. (by "we" I mean your average mom/dad that just checks their email and occasionally writes a Christmas letter)
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