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No, it ran fine. It's morons who were running it on Celerons that gave Vista its bad name.

Well I guess you and I have very different definitions of fine. Like I said I ran it on a dual core Athlon/2GB ram and its performance was sub pair in my eyes. I had many friends that ran varying hardware configurations starting with old and slow pentium D's up to C2Q like the Q6600 with 8GB of ram. We all agreed that Vista sucked hard. Some of my friends had run Longhorn and where shocked how much slower the release version of Vista was.
    
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Windows 8 is a copy cat of Windows 7. It looks almost exactly the same other than the new stupid start screen. *chkl*
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Yup. Totally Microsoft and Windows 8 fault.

Has nothing to do with the change in technology or the mainstream adoption of mobile devices that are dominated by Apple or Android. Totally coincidental. rolleyes.gif

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the PC industry has been plunging for like 2-3 years, how is Windows 8 to blame?

Try reading the article (or at least the original post, since it was quoted in there too) ...
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“At this point, unfortunately, it seems clear that the Windows 8 launch not only failed to provide a positive boost to the PC market, but appears to have slowed the market,” O’Donnell said in the IDC release. “While some consumers appreciate the new form factors and touch capabilities of Windows 8, the radical changes to the UI [user interface], removal of the familiar Start button and the costs associated with touch have made PCs a less attractive alternative to dedicated tablets and other competitive devices. Microsoft will have to make some very tough decisions moving forward if it wants to help reinvigorate the PC market.”
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Still not seeing why we're surprised. What consumer is going to need to buy a new PC anytime soon? If they bought a PC In the past couple of years, they'll have an i5/i7 quad core, plenty of ram, and WAY more storage than they know to do with. Why would your average consumer just go buy a new PC if current PC's are way more than sufficient enough.

I feel the same way, I used to buy a new PC pretty much every year but aside from sticking a Samsung 840 Pro SSD in my iMac last month, I've been using this same computer since 2009 and it's still way more than fast enough for me. The only reason to continually upgrade PCs these days is to be able to play the latest games and frankly the gamer makes up a fairly small portion of the overall PC market.
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And to be honest, the biggest fault with Vista was from one company ... Creative Labs. During those days, they were the card to have and were in just about everything, and they couldn't write a Vista driver (especially Vista 64-bit) to save their lives for about 7-8 months. I eventually gave up trying to get my $150 Sounds Blaster X-Fi to work under Vista 64 and just ran with onboard sound. At least that worked!

Now, and because of that, I refuse to buy anything from Creative Labs ever again.

Don't forget Linksys. They never wrote 64bit Vista drivers for a few of their most popular cards at the time. You had to get the driver directly from the chipset manufacturer ( in most of those cases, Ralink ) and even that was hit or miss.
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I feel the same way, I used to buy a new PC pretty much every year but aside from sticking a Samsung 840 Pro SSD in my iMac last month, I've been using this same computer since 2009 and it's still way more than fast enough for me. The only reason to continually upgrade PCs these days is to be able to play the latest games and frankly the gamer makes up a fairly small portion of the overall PC market.

Yup.

A number of years ago when I was at Dell I was in a round-table and we were discussing the fact that the time of the most basic computers being more than enough was fast approaching. Dell used to generate a lot of revenue, billions a year, on putting ads out in papers for systems that were the most basic of basic, so basic they would struggle with web browsing if you had something like Word open. They would then rely on the sales person to up-sale that customer high margin items, memory, small step up in processor, and warranty.

A good example back when they were doing this was a Celeron based system with 128MB or 256MB of RAM and XP, toss in Nortan or McAfee, and suddenly on boot the system is resource starved, runs slow. Dell reps when flat tell the customer this, and when the customer questioned why Dell would even offer it, they were instructed by Dell to tell the customer "We are just following the requirements as stated by Microsoft. But we want to look at for you, make sure you are happy, and that is why I am here to translate and help."

This worked for Dell for years, a couple of decades at least. The concern was, at these meetings, the fact that this practice was just going to no longer be as effective, as even the most basic systems were going to be more than enough. Not surprisingly, we are well beyond that point, and for the average user, the most basic of basic systems is enough for a few years of usage, at least.
    
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